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Date:      Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:16:58 -0700 (MST)
From:      Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org>
To:        W.Belgers@nl.cis.philips.com (Walter Belgers)
Cc:        terry@lambert.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: NIS/uids
Message-ID:  <199702062116.OAA17845@phaeton.artisoft.com>
In-Reply-To: <199702060842.JAA26171@giga.lss.cp.philips.com> from "Walter Belgers" at Feb 6, 97 09:42:07 am

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> > > Let's assume I do not trust the uid's coming from the NIS server but I
> > > still do want to use NIS (for passwd/homedir/gecos/whatever).
> > 
> > Then you have the same problem, this time with associating a
> > particular password with a particular name.  All you have done is
> > trade the association with uid for an association with name.  There
> > is nothing the prevents me, as an NIS server, from returning the
> > password "frobozz" (encrypted, of course) for every user, regardless
> > of their real password.
> 
> That's right. But at least you could only become one of the NIS users of
> which none is in wheel. I can live with people hacking the NIS server
> and getting access to my machine, I won't have people becoming root.

Couldn't I add the user to "wheel" or "kmem" in the NIS groups file
anyway?

I still like the idea of a list of groups and uids that won't be
honored via NIS.


> > Mostly because if I compromise the NIS server,
> > then I can force you to accept any password for any user/password pair,
> > and thereby become any user/id pair, so it doesn't give you the protection
> > you are trying to get it to give you.
> 
> I have no "+" in my password file, only "+user", so you can only hack
> those users, not the users that are only locally in my password file. So
> it does give the desired protection.

Do you do "+group" in the group file, as well?  I suppose you have to...


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
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