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Date:      Mon, 05 Nov 2001 10:42:47 -0800
From:      Flemming Froekjaer <flemming@froekjaer.org>
To:        freebsd-questions <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        Anthony Atkielski <anthony@atkielski.com>
Subject:   Re: Java on FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <3BE6DDA7.30607@froekjaer.org>
References:  <20011105125722.93098.qmail@web10403.mail.yahoo.com> <00f601c165ff$53417870$0a00000a@atkielski.com>

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Anthony Atkielski wrote:

>Dylan writes:
>
>>But with your comments... that kind of attitude has
>>kept Linux and FreeBSD from being Tier 1 platforms
>>for things such as ... oh, say... Oracle?
>>
>
>Ted's comments are quite relevant and reasonable.  If you want a proprietary
>solution, why go with FreeBSD?  Conversely, if you want an open solution, why
>get entangled with Java?  
>
The originaly poster wants to run Java. That should be enough. It you 
dont like Java, sun or Starbucks feel free to avoid them, but don't try 
to force him away from Java, because all you will achive is to drive him 
away from FreeBSD.

>
>That is very wishful thinking.  Compared to the total range of applications
>available for UNIX systems, Java is barely a blip on the radar.  
>
Maybe so, but if you need Java, then you got to have it.

>
>I've seen no evidence to support this.  FreeBSD seems to be doing fine.  FreeBSD
>and Apache make a nearly unbeatable combination, and all for free.
>
FreeBSD can do a lot more than just hosting a Apache server. Just 
because that is all you know how to install, does not meen that others 
are not using it for a lot more diverse set of applications.

>look.  And none of these people care at all about Java.
>
What do you know what people care about? I run Java on my FreeBSD boxes.

>On the contrary, it is quite logical.  If you want Java as a proprietary
>solution, you may as well run it on a proprietary OS distributed by the same
>vendor.  It seems logical that Java would run better on Solaris than on any
>other OS.
>
If you have to run Java, or want to run Java, then you should do it on 
the host that best meet your needs. Those needs could be determined by a 
lot of other factors that Java it self.
Besides solaris is not free for production servers. Finaly solaris may 
be a fine OS, but not on x86 architecture.

>The idea is to find the best solution for your application, not to demonstrate
>slavish devotion to any one software package or product.
>
As you are demostrating slavish devotion to php or whatever it is you 
favor for dynamic page generation?

>
>It's kind of like asking how to get IIS to run on FreeBSD.  If you want IIS, run
>Windows.
>
No. It's like asking how to get the FrontPage CGI's to run on FreeBSD. 
He is not asking for a specific implementation, just a runtime 
enviroment that will run his servlets.

\Flemming


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