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Date:      Mon, 11 Aug 2003 01:07:16 +0200
From:      Erik Trulsson <ertr1013@student.uu.se>
To:        Daniela <dgw@liwest.at>
Cc:        stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Strange things going on with 4.8
Message-ID:  <20030810230716.GA11942@falcon.midgard.homeip.net>
In-Reply-To: <200308110040.56138.dgw@liwest.at>
References:  <200308102227.51564.dgw@liwest.at> <20030810151936.Q69012@carver.gumbysoft.com> <200308110040.56138.dgw@liwest.at>

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On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 12:40:56AM +0000, Daniela wrote:
> On Sunday 10 August 2003 22:22, Doug White wrote:
> > On Sun, 10 Aug 2003, Daniela wrote:
> > > I'm having problems no end on my 4.8-STABLE box, and I hope you can help
> > > me.
> > >
> > > My processes get lots of signals (mostly 6, 10 and 11), and my kernel
> > > dumps core very often. I have the core dumps from the 4 latest crashes.
> > > See attachment for more info.
> > > Notice the common values for IdlePTD and initial pcb. Does this mean
> > > anything?
> >
> > Not particularly ...
> >
> > These types of problems are generally caused by:
> >
> > 1. Bad memory
> > 2. Overheated processor, or some similar CPU fault
> > 3. Bad memory
> >
> > > 1) Some time ago KDE was hanging in disk wait state forever.
> >
> > 'inode'?
> >
> > > 2) When rebuilding the world, make sometimes fails, but when I retry, it
> > > either works, or fails elsewhere. I have not seen this on -STABLE, only
> > > on 5.0-RELEASE (on the same computer).
> >
> > 5.0-R isn't very representative. You'd have to check against -current.
> >
> > > I have already tested the memory (no errors). There weren't any problems
> > > with 4.6-RELEASE on my old box.
> >
> > How did you test the memory? Generally short of using a hardware SIMM
> > tester its very difficult to identify bad modules. memtest86 run over the
> > period of several hours can sometimes work.
> >
> > BIOS "tests" don't count.
> 
> I used sysutils/memtest from the ports, and let it run over night.

That won't be able to test all memory and will easily miss a lot of
problems. Can be used as evidence that an error exists, but not that
there is no error.

> BTW, is there some kind of "operating system" that boots off a floppy and just 
> tests the memory? That would be useful because memtest can't test all the 
> memory.

Yes, there is.  Memtest86 as mentioned a few lines above is exactly
such a program. It is available from http://www.memtest86.com




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Erik Trulsson
ertr1013@student.uu.se



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