Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 00:01:29 -0800 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@FreeBSD.ORG> To: jak@cetlink.net (John Kelly) Cc: Amancio Hasty <hasty@rah.star-gate.com>, Chuck Robey <chuckr@glue.umd.edu>, "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@FreeBSD.ORG>, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Donations. Message-ID: <15498.888998489@time.cdrom.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 04 Mar 1998 04:12:53 GMT." <3501d407.102898087@mail.cetlink.net>
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> As Nate said, it's already been accepted. But the developers getting > paid are fragmented, not organized. That's the wrong way to do it. You seem to enjoy making extremist statements with little in the way of supporting evidence and I rather that wish you'd knock it off because it's distruptive and doesn't further the cause of FreeBSD if that's what you're really, honestly here to do. I'm sorry but it's not the "wrong" way to do it, it's very often the *only* way to do it given certain constraints on your potential "employees." Don't you think I'd just love to go rent a cosy little set of offices somewhere (perhaps in the classic renovated warehouse that seems to be positively mandatory for startups these days :-) and get about 30 full-time FreeBSD developers together working full-time and at very generous salaries? We'd then enjoy all the advantages of a truly close-coupled work environment with big whiteboards all over the place and working lunch meetings and all the other (generally) productivity-enhancing benefits of having a real company with real offices and we'd probably even have a blast doing it. Except for one teeny-tiny little problem: The current group of developers couldn't do it. The current developers are already more than happily employed, or they have families and they don't want to move, or they just plain would HATE working anywhere but at home in their bedrooms at night and are doing FreeBSD largely _because_ it's not taking place at the office. More to the point, there are many of us that get along just fine in email but would probably kill one another if forced to work face-to-face 5 days a week. :-) That's not to say that a company composed of some other group of individuals working on FreeBSD can't be created some day, but I'd just as soon worry about that *after* we've already exhausted the options offered by simply co-opting the employees of other companies (which actually happens to work _very nicely_, thank you very much!) or getting people paid to work at home on FreeBSD on a full-time or contract basis (which we're also already doing). That will result in much less disruption to the current developers' roster and, for a lot of very good reasons, it's a good idea not to substantially screw around with the composition of the FreeBSD development team right now. Not wrong. Pragmatic. Learn the difference! :) Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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