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Date:      Sat, 22 Jan 2000 00:15:48 -0700
From:      Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
To:        Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
Cc:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>, Warner Losh <imp@village.org>, Darren Reed <avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au>, security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: stream.c worst-case kernel paths
Message-ID:  <38895924.5C358388@softweyr.com>
References:  <200001210417.PAA24853@cairo.anu.edu.au> <200001210642.XAA09108@harmony.village.org> <4.2.2.20000121163937.01a51dc0@localhost> <200001220035.QAA65392@apollo.backplane.com>

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Matthew Dillon wrote:
> 
>     I wouldn't worry about multicast addresses for several reasons.  First, very
>     few machines actually run a multicast router.  No router, no problem.  Second,
>     multicast tunnels tend to be bandwidth limited anyway.  Third, from the point
>     of view of victimizing someone multicast isn't going to get you very far
>     because we already check for a multicast destination.  We don't really need
>     to check for a multicast source because it's really no different from a
>     victimizing point of view as a non-multicast source address.

In my testing this morning, I was running stream against a FreeBSD 3.4-R
machine with two interfaces, one on a private net and one one our main
LAN.  When I hit it with stream using random addresses, it was generating
multicast addresses.  The target machine began flooding the ACKs onto the
main LAN, even though net.inet.ip.forwarding = 0.

Who needs a multicast router?  I brought 400 machines to their knees and
completely flooded a frac T-1 from what was supposed to be an *isolated*
test network.

-- 
            "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?"

Wes Peters                                                         Softweyr LLC
wes@softweyr.com                                           http://softweyr.com/


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