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Date:      Wed, 15 Nov 2000 07:24:35 +0100
From:      Wilko Bulte <wkb@freebie.demon.nl>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
Cc:        John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.ORG>, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@FreeBSD.ORG>, arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: RANDOMDEV inspired realitycheck regarding i386/i486...
Message-ID:  <20001115072435.E1321@freebie.demon.nl>
In-Reply-To: <200011151723.KAA12325@usr01.primenet.com>; from tlambert@primenet.com on Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 05:23:26PM %2B0000
References:  <20001114075729.G333@freebie.demon.nl> <200011151723.KAA12325@usr01.primenet.com>

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On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 05:23:26PM +0000, Terry Lambert wrote:
> > > > What is the consensus ?
> > > 
> > > What is the current processor of choice for embedded stuff?  Is
> > > x86 even a good architecture for embedded work?  That is the
> > > only place that I would see the 386 still being alive...
> > 
> > x86 has never been a good CPU for embedded. [eyes his trusty books
> > collection for Motorola's 680x0 ;) ]
> 
> The Motorola strategy is broken; the processor they are selling
> for Palm Pilots has no MMU.  It's no good for most embedded work
> (and is barely good enough for making Palm Pilots unstable with
> one single bad program).

I could not care less about Palmpilots to be honest. Not an 
embedded application by my standards btw. 

> Cyrix, AMD, and various Card PCs are all 386-class CPUs.  The
> IBM "Blue Lightning" core is a 386 class core, which is used
> to implement macrocell based embedded ASICs.  Intel has two
> 386 macrocells that are used for embedded work.  I'd have to
> say that not even the 80186 was dead yet...

Sure, macrocells are used quite often.

-- 
Wilko Bulte  	 					Arnhem, the Netherlands
wilko@freebsd.org  	http://www.freebsd.org 		http://www.nlfug.nl



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