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Date:      Tue, 21 Aug 2001 17:29:45 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Hodge Podge <nicole@unixgirl.com>
To:        Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net>
Cc:        freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 3ware stuff not ready for heavy duty useage-followup
Message-ID:  <XFMail.010821172945.nicole@unixgirl.com>
In-Reply-To: <pgp3oto2bpcec1gnudpi329ml3emoilgmd@4ax.com>

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On 21-Aug-01 Mike Tancsa wrote:
> On 20 Aug 2001 14:15:05 -0400, in sentex.lists.freebsd.hardware you wrote:
> 
>>
>> I have a 3ware raid a well  that so far has been A-ok. However it is not
>>loaded much. The arrays so far have seemed ok, until loaded like a very busy
>>server with lots of IO. 
>> SO far out of 4 servers attempted with the 3ware card.. not one has
>> survived.
>>Only my personal one which is obviosly less loaded.
> 
> I use a 4 port cards on my news server.  20Mb/s Usenet feed from Cidera
> coming in 24hrs a day and 2Mb/s going out for readers plus night time
> expires on DNEWS. I would call this fairly busy server in terms of IO.  No
> problems ever.  The IDE drives are almost a year old and dont have errors.
> The 4 drives are in 2 RAID 0 sets.
> 

 Yea.. Thats the strange part, I have had no problems with RAID 0 Only RAID 10
and RAID 5. 


>>
>> As I said before, I don't think it is a driver issue, or a FreeBSD issue,
>> but
>>more a, can IDE's take the abuse and how well can 3ware deal with the myriad
>>of
>>error reporing they told me is a problem with IDE drives.
>> I have heard they wil soon have a way to remap around bad sectors on the
>> fly,
>>This would prevent them from having to drop the disk in the event of error
>>reporting hopefully.
> 
> Even with "cheap" IDE drives, I dont think you are going to see failures on
> a weekly basis. This is rather odd. Like I said, I have been pounding the
> snot out of 4 of them in my news server as well as 2 13 gig drives on a
> busy squid box.  I also have a 4 port RAID 10 box on a fairly busy Win2K
> box running MS SQL 7. 

 Yea.. I think it also has to do with the size of the drive. As they keep
putting more and more data into a smaller area, if you have a busy server,
especially a database server were the same files are very active, I think that
is were IDE's might really show their deficiancies.

> Perhaps its the 8 port card ? I have not used any of those.


 Dunno. The more irritating thing is that with the last 8 port RAID 5 array,
when one drive failed, it refused to rebuild to the hot spare. I tried twice
and it failed twice then froze again :(

 Maybe it is the power supply issue, maybe there were enough drives and they
and or the card or something is sensitive to any voltage spikes. If I can get
the rebuild help from 3ware soon I hope to do some imperical testing on the
failed database server to find out. I will run teh snot out of it and try to do
a rebuild and monitor the voltages with a digital meter.
 I did some testing today and found it to be pretty stable even on bootup.


  Nicole



>       ---Mike
> 
> Mike Tancsa  (mdtancsa@sentex.net)            
> Sentex Communications Corp,                   
> Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
> "Given enough time, 100 monkeys on 100 routers 
> could setup a national IP network." (KDW2)
> 
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