Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 18:09:54 -0500 From: Stephen Derdau <sderdau@ne.mediaone.net> To: pat.groce@state.sd.us Cc: patseal@hyperhost.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: unix is a problem: free bsd doesn't help Message-ID: <36477642.D3BF0786@ne.mediaone.net> References: <5D2C95997022D21187350008C7F4CF793E6C08@ESPR1SRV5.state.sd.us>
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Yeah then again maybe it's the server it's hosted on. If it's bandwidth then get more ! Is the server NT using frontpage Maybe 250 mgs of ram isn't enough for the nt server :-) I know I've seen freebsd and apache webservers handle alot of traffic . I think probably more than SD's site probably gets. Then it may have something to do with web page design. 4 t1's all those people really going to that page ? Or are they all surfing when they shoudl be working :-) I find it hard to believe If my site was that slow I'd get more bandwidth !* ! * ! * ! pat.groce@state.sd.us wrote: > > Its a bandwidth problem with our 4 t1's be over loaded. My godness but > suddenly i can't do anything right. > > Here, let me fall on the floor, now just kick me. Boy would i hate to be > your dog! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen A. Derdau [mailto:sderdau@ne.mediaone.net] > Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 12:44 PM > To: Patrick Seal > Cc: pat.groce@state.sd.us; FBSDQ > Subject: Re: unix is a problem: free bsd doesn't help > > One thing I just noticed. Patseal's page comes up fast > I went to www.state.sd.us and it takes forever just to load. > I have a cable access modem also.. > Maybe Patrick may want to give a few pointers on how to design > a functional website to www.state.sd.us. > ;-) > > Patrick Seal wrote: > > > > I'm only 15 years old and have 3 FreeBSD systems up and running on a > > small lan. I've had no problem not solved by the list. If you would > > actually *READ* all the information out their,(including the readme > > that COMES with 3.0) it would tell you not to use any NON STABLE > > version for production systems. My Windows systems crash multiple > > times a day and bite more that you do. > > > > Have a nice M$ day :) > > > > Patrick Seal > > patseal@hyperhost.net > > > > Hyperhost > > Web Hosting and Design > > http://www.hyperhost.net > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of > > > pat.groce@state.sd.us > > > Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 12:30 PM > > > To: jlemon@americantv.com; pat.groce@state.sd.us > > > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > > Subject: RE: unix is a problem: free bsd doesn't help > > > > > > > > > I couldn't get anything but 3.0 over the net. I mean i > > > download boot.flp and > > > fdimage.exe, made my install disk, and 3.0 was what i got. > > > DON'T BLAME ME, I > > > DID EVERYTHING THE WWW.FREEBD.ORG TOLD ME TO FOR AN > > > INSTALL. Why didn't the > > > web site or setup program warn me not to install 3.0? > > > > > > The web page at > > > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html made it all > > > sound so simple. I didn't know there were hidden issues! > > > > > > If the system isn't configured correctly its FREEBSD'S > > > fault! Why can't a > > > fresh install even stand on two legs? So what if its out of > > > disk space? Not > > > my fault. It should have configured the partitions > > > correctly from the first > > > place. What a joke! And you're blaming ME for the system > > > having problems? > > > > > > ADMIT IT! FREEBSD CAN NEVER HOLD A CANDLE TO NT. ONLY A > > > MOUNTAIN TROLL WHO > > > SPENDS HIS DAYS SLOBBERING OVER A KEYBOARD HACKING SYSTEM > > > CODE COULD EVER > > > GET IT WORKING. > > > > > > This os is not for the business world! > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jonathan Lemon [mailto:jlemon@americantv.com] > > > Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 10:27 AM > > > To: pat.groce@state.sd.us > > > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > > Subject: Re: unix is a problem: free bsd doesn't help > > > > > > > > > On Nov 11, 1998 at 10:01:11AM -0600, pat.groce@state.sd.us wrote: > > > > We had been running freebsd for 4 years to handle our > > > internet email. Last > > > > week the hard drive crashed on the system. I had a tape backup of > > > important > > > > files so i reinstalled using the new freebsd 3.0 version. > > > > > > Let me get this straight; You had a system crash, so instead of > > > re-installing a known good system, you upgrade a production system > > > to the bleeding edge (3.0) without any prior testing? > > > > > > Honestly, this was a mistake, and the version that should have > > > been installed was installed was 2.2.7. > > > > > > > > > > cryptic errors. Sendmail keeps giving me an error: > > > > sendmail[131]: NOQUEUE: low on space (have 0, SMTP-DAEMON > > > needs 101 in > > > > /var/spool/mqueue) > > > > > > So, sendmail gives you an error message saying that it is out of > > > disk space, and you blame it on sendmail? No offense, but it > > > sounds to me like the system isn't configured correctly. > > > > > > > > > > To hell with FreeBSD. We are replacing all of the systems > > > with NT versions > > > > of sendmail. And it works great! I neat little GUI makes > > > sendmail and the > > > > Exchange listservs easy to manage.The software may cost > > > more, but in terms > > > > of staff time, we're saving thousands, not to mention all > > > the frustration. > > > > > > > > I read all the news on how unix is going to give > > > microsoft a run for the > > > > operating system market. I don't believe it for a second. > > > > > > You are welcome to your opinion. If NT works better for you, > > > then by all means, use it. > > > > > > FreeBSD is powerful, and can do anything that you want it to do. > > > However, it setting it up and maintaining it does require more > > > knowledge on the administrator's part than NT. In return, it > > > can provide "years of trouble-free operation"(tm). > > > > > > You did note that FreeBSD handled your email for 4 years before a > > > harddrive crash. Please feel free to give us a summary in 4 years > > > from now of how well NT behaves in doing the same task. > > > -- > > > Jonathan > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > -- > When you find out the answer it's always something > you thought you knew :-) > > Answers here http://www.freeBSD.org/search > > Happily Running! > FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE #0: > Fri Oct 9 19:54:29 EDT 1998 > sderdau@SDERDAU.ne.mediaone.net -- Thank You /SD FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE #0: Mon Aug 24 02:20:10 EDT 1998 **http://www.freebsd.org/search.html "Alot of answers found here see FAQ's"** ***** FreeBSD IT's HARD TO BELIEVE IT IS FREE ! http://www.FreeBSD.org ***** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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