Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 14:53:12 -0500 From: Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu> To: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>, Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com> Cc: Jake Burkholder <jake@locore.ca>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/i386 exception.s genassym.c machdep.c mp_machdep.c mpapic.c swtch.s vm_machdep.c src/sys/i386/include cpufunc.h pcb.h src/sys/i386/isa apic_vector.s clock.c icu_vector.s intr_machdep.c intr_machdep.h npx.c src/sys/kern ... Message-ID: <p05101404b8a1960b71bd@[128.113.24.47]> In-Reply-To: <69238.1014748670@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <69238.1014748670@critter.freebsd.dk>
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At 7:37 PM +0100 2/26/02, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >In message <200202261820.g1QIKag95482@apollo.backplane.com>, Matthew >Dillon wri >tes: > > > I am not 'walking all over people'. I am simply trying to > > work on the project. > >Well, at last count there were only one person peddling that point >of view and at least 5 or ten arguing that you _are_ in fact walking >all over people. Please note that an increasing number of developers are loathe to comment at all. We are getting so every commit or every question is a flame-war waiting to start. Most of these issues are not quite so black-and-white that people are willing to jump in the middle of the flame and get shot at. Me, I'm somewhat more sympathetic to Matt's position than JMB's uber-commits which are somewhere in P4 space, but that does not mean I want to go shooting arrows in JMB's direction either. Some of this is just "shit happens", and someone with the best of intentions gets caught up in other real-world distractions, and they don't get their work finished as fast as they originally planned. In fact, that is part of the reason I'm more sympathetic to Matt's position. Maybe everyone hates the change Matt has made, but it's there in the open where we could, uh, "discuss" it (not that we spend much time discussing technical merits any more). JMB has some changes which may be great and wonderful, but they are apparently huge and they are not getting committed. This is not a good way to work on changes in a project which has hundreds of opinionated developers. I have the feeling I'm supposed to pick the "bad guy" here, and the "good guy", and I must admit I am tired of that. I want to choose between the "good update" and the "bad update", and then have a round of drinks with everyone at the bar at the end of the day. Despite the tone of some of my messages, I am not a part of FreeBSD because I like arguing with people and making enemies. About the only think I like to do is write code. I like feedback from other experienced developers (as much as I might disagree with specific technical points when I'm in the middle of that "feedback"...). -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message
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