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Date:      Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:11:44 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Daniel Eischen <eischen@vigrid.com>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Dan Naumov <dan.naumov@ofw.fi>
Subject:   RE: Fixing -pthreads (Re: ports and -current)
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.10.10309241111040.26896-100000@pcnet5.pcnet.com>
In-Reply-To: <XFMail.20030924091322.jhb@FreeBSD.org>

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On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, John Baldwin wrote:

> 
> On 23-Sep-2003 Dan Naumov wrote:
> > On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 23:25, Dan Naumov wrote:
> >> On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 23:13, Daniel Eischen wrote:
> >> > I understand that folks want to wave their hands and say "just make
> >> > -pthread work and do whatever it needs to".
> >> 
> >> I am one of those folks as well. As an end-user, I am not interested in
> >> hacking around the source of 3rd-party applications that use -pthread
> >> when compiling them from source myself. Not in the slightest. This is
> >> BAD BAD BAD for usability.
> >> 
> >> Sincerely,
> >> Dan Naumov
> > 
> > I also believe that a question has to be asked, what do the -core and
> > -arch people think of all this ? I think that they should have the final
> > say in the matter.
> 
> I think having a magic option to gcc that translates to 'link with the
> foo library' is rediculous.  What's next, a gcc -math to get the math
> functions in libm?  The fact that functions live in libraries and that
> to get access to said functions you link with said libraries has been
> the practice on Un*x for longer than I've been alive.  Please, people,
> let the -pthread hack die and just use -l<mumble thread library>.
> I think any FreeBSD-specific -pthread bits should just be removed
> and have the compiler complain about a bogus option.  If gcc chooses
> to have a machine independent -pthread (or -thread) to turn on TLS or
> some such, that's great and all, but that would be gcc code, not
> FreeBSD-specific code.

Where were you a few days ago!

-- 
Dan Eischen



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