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Date:      Mon, 12 Mar 2001 15:13:15 -0800
From:      Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>
To:        Matt Dillon <dillon@earth.backplane.com>
Cc:        Kevin Oberman <oberman@es.net>, Soren Schmidt <sos@freebsd.dk>, mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Disk I/O problem in 4.3-BETA
Message-ID:  <20010312151315.F18351@fw.wintelcom.net>
In-Reply-To: <200103122310.f2CNANH77246@earth.backplane.com>; from dillon@earth.backplane.com on Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 03:10:23PM -0800
References:  <200103122036.VAA99695@freebsd.dk> <200103122146.f2CLkLs08952@ptavv.es.net> <20010312140636.A18351@fw.wintelcom.net> <200103122310.f2CNANH77246@earth.backplane.com>

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* Matt Dillon <dillon@earth.backplane.com> [010312 15:11] wrote:
> :If basically running with blind write caching turned on is akin to
> :running your filesystem in async mode.  This is because write
> :caching gives the drive license to lie about completing a write,
> :the various ordering of writes are effectively bypassed.  If you
> :crash without these dependancies actually written to the disk, when
> :you come back up you have a good chance of losing large portions
> :of your filesystem.
> :
> :-- 
> :-Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org]
> :Daemon News Magazine in your snail-mail! http://magazine.daemonnews.org/
> 
>     It's actually worse.  Someone, I forget who, ran some tests with 
>     write-caching turned on and found that the IDE drive could hold a
>     pending write in its cache 'forever', even in the face of other writes,
>     as long as there was other disk activity going on.  So we aren't just
>     talking about issuing I/O's out of order, we are talking about issuing
>     a sequence of writes and having some of them simply not ever commiting
>     to disk (not for a long, long time) in a heavily loaded environment.
>     That's bad news.

Someone leaked the Linux austrailian elevator algorithm to the disk
manufacturers?

I was wondering why I got a Turbo Linux CDrom with my last disk
purchase.

Of course I'm only kidding...

-- 
-Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org]
Daemon News Magazine in your snail-mail! http://magazine.daemonnews.org/


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