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Date:      15 Oct 2002 09:13:19 -0700
From:      swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen)
To:        Peter Leftwich <Hostmaster@Video2Video.Com>
Cc:        "Gary W. Swearingen" <swear@attbi.com>, FreeBSD LIST <FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.Org>
Subject:   Re: Ports FAQ is a great read [port.tar??]
Message-ID:  <r73cr78yu8.cr7@localhost.localdomain>
In-Reply-To: <20021015011627.X4776-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net>
References:  <20021015011627.X4776-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net>

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Peter Leftwich <Hostmaster@Video2Video.Com> writes:

> On 1 Oct 2002, Gary W. Swearingen wrote:
> > non-cvsup method 3:
> > --  cd /usr/ports/<sub>
> >     fetch
> >     ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/branches/-current/ports/<sub>/port.tar
> >     tar -xf port.tar
> >     Note: Not all of the mirrors support tar-on-the-fly ftp transfers, but some do, including the primary site.
> 
> What is "tar-on-the-fly?"  Case in point:
> 
> # mkdir /usr/ports/java ; cd /usr/ports/java
> # fetch ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/branches/-current/ports/java/jdk13.tar
> fetch: jdk13.tar: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
> 
> I am losing faith in my abilities and am most certainly settling on a life
> of /stand/sysinstall and `pkg_add -r` :-(  Can someone offer me hope?

Sorry.  I guess I shouldn't post my notes without editing out stuff I've
just copied from somewhere else without ever trying.

I suspect that tar-on-the-fly is what some ftp servers support when you
ask for a tar file like xxx.tar when the server filesystem only has a
directory xxx.  It tars the xxx tree into xxx.tar and delivers it to
you.  Just guessing.

Before fetching things, I usually pull up the ftp directory in my web
browser and poke around.  It could also be done with the "ftp" command.

I just did (essentially) method 3 by using "ncftpget -R ftp://ftp....."
on the port skeleton at the ftp site.  There's nothing significant to be
gained by getting the skeleton wrapped up in a tar file.

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