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Date:      Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:31:29 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Peter Jeremy <peter@rulingia.com>
Cc:        YongHyeon PYUN <pyunyh@gmail.com>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: dhclient cause up/down cycle after 239356 ?
Message-ID:  <B918DF2C-2606-496C-B8F6-614E43A279EA@bsdimp.com>
In-Reply-To: <20120823013534.GA31015@server.rulingia.com>
References:  <20120821095527.GA33206@hell.ukr.net> <20120822171253.GB3300@michelle.cdnetworks.com> <20120822172822.GA52909@hell.ukr.net> <201208221535.01598.jhb@freebsd.org> <20120823013534.GA31015@server.rulingia.com>

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On Aug 22, 2012, at 7:35 PM, Peter Jeremy wrote:

> On 2012-Aug-22 15:35:01 -0400, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> wrote:
>> Hmm.  Perhaps we could use a debouncer to ignore "short" link flaps?  =
Kind of
>> gross (and OpenBSD doesn't do this).  For now this change basically =
ignores
>> link up events if they occur with 5 seconds of the link down event.  =
The 5 is
>> hardcoded which is kind of yuck.
>=20
> I'm also a bit concerned about this for similar reasons to adrian@.
> We need to distinguish between short link outages caused by (eg) a
> switch admin reconfiguring the switch (which needs the lease to be
> re-checked) and those caused by broken NICs which report link status
> changes when they are touched.  Maybe an alternative is to just ignore
> link flaps when they occur within a few seconds of a script_go().
> (And/or make the ignore timeout configurable).
>=20
> Apart from fxp(4), does anyone know how many NICs are similarly
> broken?
>=20
> Does anyone know why this issue doesn't bite OpenBSD?  Does it have
> a work-around to avoid resetting the link, not report link status
> changes or just no-one has noticed the issue?

Speaking of fxp(4), can't it defer reporting link status changes during =
the reset sequence it must perform?  Wouldn't it be better to fix the =
broken driver(s) to behave better than to add a twisty maze of hacks to =
dhclient?

Warner




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