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Date:      Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:27:49 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@harmony.village.org>
To:        sos@freebsd.dk
Cc:        Kazutaka YOKOTA <yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD's aggressive keyboard probe/attach 
Message-ID:  <200108121627.f7CGRnW01423@harmony.village.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:23:44 %2B0200." <200108120823.f7C8Ni097169@freebsd.dk> 
References:  <200108120823.f7C8Ni097169@freebsd.dk>  

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In message <200108120823.f7C8Ni097169@freebsd.dk> S ren Schmidt writes:
: Exactly, I know the feeling, I could use a 40 hour week just for keeping
: up with the ATA sutff, but getting that much time, AND having a day job
: that pay the bills is simply not possible.

Yes.  pccard and cardbus issues could easily take 40 hours a week at
times, and at least 10 hours a week all the time.  I've been lucky the
last few months to have a someone pay for some of the time I put into
pccard, but that has been the exception rather than the rule.

: If I could have a free wish, it would be for all those that complain
: and use our sparse time with these endless discussions to develop the
: needed skills and just get on with fixing the problems themselves, 
: *then* get back here with the solution.
:
: This is how this system is/was built guys....

I think it is possible to penetrate code that is hard to understand.
It just takes a lot of time.  It is easier to just complain.  I know
it took me a long time to grok OLDCARD...

Warner

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