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Date:      Tue, 05 Jun 2007 13:11:36 -0500
From:      eculp@encontacto.net
To:        Adam K Kirchhoff <adamk@voicenet.com>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Intel C2D COREs not used equally in FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT i386
Message-ID:  <20070605131136.f07dq9qaas8ws4gc@intranet.encontacto.net>
In-Reply-To: <200706051303.11431.adamk@voicenet.com>
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Quoting Adam K Kirchhoff <adamk@voicenet.com>:

> On Tuesday 05 June 2007 12:40:34 eculp@encontacto.net wrote:
>> Quoting Garrett Cooper <youshi10@u.washington.edu>:
>> > Diego Depaoli wrote:
>> >> 2007/6/5, Ed Schouten <ed@fxq.nl>:
>> >>>> In practice there's (almost) only one reason not to run
>> >>>> FreeBSD/amd64 on amd64-capable hardware:  If you depend
>> >>>> on a certain piece of software which is known not to run
>> >>>> correctly in 64bit mode.  Fortunately those are not many.
>> >>>
>> >>> I guess most of those are still waiting for a 64-bits nvidia.ko.
>> >>
>> >> That's true.
>> >> Is there any news?
>> >
>> >    Yeah, a lot of people are still waiting for that (including me..
>> > can't get nv to work under amd64 :(...).
>> >    We should band together and get nvidia to speed up amd64
>> > development a bit more *sigh*..
>>
>> Boy am I glad that I am reading this thread.
>>
>> As weird as it may sound, I was going to go buy a new laptop, amd64
>> with nvidia.  In fact the explanation given by Oliver helped push me
>> over to AMD in addition to past experience has always been good with
>> them.  I also had the idea that AMD had purchased a chunk of nvidia
>> which made the decision make even more sense to me.  Luckily  I saw
>> these, before rather that after the fact.
>>
>> I understand from this that the nvidia will not run the new xorg-7.2
>> with AMD64?  Am I reading this right or am I just having a case of
>> PRE-buyers remorse?  ;)
>
> It is true that the closed source nvidia driver will not work on an AMD64
> system.
>
> However, bear in mind that Xorg does not support any recent AMD cards (X13=
00
> or newer) with anything other than the vesa driver.  The open source drive=
rs
> support up-to the x850 (actually, the x1050 now, iirc).  The AMD/ATI Xpres=
s
> chipsets are supported by the open source 2D drivers, but not (yet) the 3D
> drivers.
>
> Your best bet might be to go with a laptop with intel graphics.

Hi Adam,

Back to the drawing board as they say.  I've been trying to make that =20
decision for a couple of weeks now, since my old laptop's disk died.

I guess you are right but I should probably add a gig of memory to be =20
sure that all will be well.  I had actually thought of upgrading it =20
from one to two and that just gives me justification ;)

thanks,

ed




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