Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 13:20:56 -0500 From: Jim Bryant <kc5vdj@yahoo.com> To: Jason Andresen <jandrese@mitre.org> Cc: bmah@freebsd.org, Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org>, Jordan Hubbard <jkh@freebsd.org>, kris@obsecurity.org, andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No tools on 4.4-RELEASE ISO? Message-ID: <3BAB8508.2010706@yahoo.com> References: <3BA9EEED.B7F0A194@mitre.org> <Pine.BSF.4.10.10109202158410.14211-100000@andrsn.stanford.edu> <20010920223730.A82191@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010920234553S.jkh@freebsd.org> <200109211448.f8LEmfd54113@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> <20010921095056.M61456@elvis.mu.org> <200109211518.f8LFITg54534@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> <3BAB6513.F6251E77@mitre.org>
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Jason Andresen wrote:
> "Bruce A. Mah" wrote:
>
>>Note that the set of people affected is going to be "people who can't do
>>anonymous FTP, don't have bootable CDROMs, and *only* have the ISO
>>images to work with". I don't know for sure, but I'd expect this set to
>>be pretty small...if they don't have Internet access, how'd they get the
>>ISO images?
>>
>
> Probably more often that you'd expect. I know I had to install 4.4 in
> our lab (which blocks most net access) full of old machines. Fortunatly
> I have a 4.3 ISO sitting here that I just grabbed fdimage from and
> went on, but it did seem like a rather noticable oversight.
>
> What about the boot managers in that directory? Certainly people will
> want
> to dual boot their new FreeBSD installs?
>
>
I've been in the same situation at a military site...
Having the tools directory is very important.
Many people also install freebsd on low-power old boxes, hell, we run our gateway/router/firewall at home on an old dell p-133
optiplex pizzabox we bought for $50, non-bootable cd-rom at that. We can just use dd to create the floppy, since it's running
FreeBSD already for the task, but if someone had to start from scratch, the tool wouldn't be available.
It may be a pain in the ass, especially after i've burned two copies of the distribution already, but i'll waste another handful of
cd-r's to get something usable in every situation if new ISOs are made.
jim
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