Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 16:59:33 +0000 (GMT) From: Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com> To: wes@softweyr.com (Wes Peters) Cc: lnb@FreeBSDsystems.COM (Lanny Baron), grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey), opentrax@email.com, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freedom@FreedomTC.COM Subject: Re: accessing portal site Message-ID: <200011141659.JAA21802@usr08.primenet.com> In-Reply-To: <3A1027F9.81900EA3@softweyr.com> from "Wes Peters" at Nov 13, 2000 10:42:17 AM
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> > Greg, what are you trying to do to me??? Are you trying to get people to > > hate me? I have spent almost 1 year trying to make business plans for > > Freedom Technologies Corporation, which exists, and sells FREEDOM > > SERVERS with FreeBSD installed. > > No, he's just trying to get you to stop sending email that have the appearance > of collusion with the FreeBSD Project. If you want to send a "heads up" to > a FreeBSD mailing list, use BCC so the person or company you're sending the > mail to will not misconstrue your message as coming from or being approved by > the FreeBSD Project or the Advocacy group. I always see these types of postings from the corporate perspective as a threat of a "call to arms" to mobilize a large group of some unknown vitriolic bent. As such, seeing the Cc: can be an incredibly effective tool, if it is used correctly. That said, I suspect that if there is intent to use the advocacy address as a truncheon to get your way, that it would be best if it were a padded truncheon: polite, with no rancor. I rather expect that Intel reacted as it did to avoid getting "slashdotted" by a bunch of advocacy lunatics (promptly, and with a higher level than might otherwise be expected management response, and with rapidly implemented changes to the site, not just "lip service"). I personally have no objection to the list being used as a mild threat/lever in order to get a result that one might not otherwise be able to get, using simply a private note to the webmaster, who probably gets hundreds of such things each day, and files them in his/her /dev/null folder. But next time, let's pad that whiffle-bat. PS: Setting a "Reply-To:" would take care of most of the concerns about them getting SPAMmed with a bunch of responses in the context of a list. Probably a better idea would be a list whose sole intent is to be used as a lever with vendors, but that would probably not be approved by The Powers That Be, for the same reasons they object to using advocacy that way in the first place. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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