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Date:      Wed, 22 Jan 1997 15:57:44 -0600
From:      Dan Riley <driley@vailsys.com>
To:        jfieber@indiana.edu, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: X-inside CDE segfaulting all over the place
Message-ID:  <32E68D58.7C58@vailsys.com>
References:  <Pine.BSF.3.95.970119182842.585E-100000@moonpie.w8hd.org> <Pine.BSI.3.95.970119203457.22331T-100000@fallout.campusview.indiana.edu> <199701201850.LAA07568@chon.xinside.com>

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<DT>I have been following the last few posts on this thread and am still
undecided as wheather or not to purchase the Xinside server and the related
bundled AcceleratedX stuff. Has it been a problem getting up and running
and worth the effort of cleaning up X11R6?</DT>

<DT>&nbsp;</DT>

<DT>Thanks for the advice</DT>

<DT>&nbsp;</DT>

<DT>Patrick Giagnocavo wrote:<BR>
&gt;&nbsp;<BR>
&gt; John Fieber writes:<BR>
&gt;&nbsp; &gt; On 19 Jan 1997, Kim Culhan wrote:<BR>
&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>
&gt;&nbsp; &gt; &gt; I had XFree86 installed too but decided to follow
Xinside's advice in the<BR>
&gt;&nbsp; &gt; &gt; docs and delete all of XFree except the Xinside xserver
stuff which<BR>
&gt;&nbsp; &gt; &gt; was installed at /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/AcceleratedX.<BR>
&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>
&gt;&nbsp; &gt; Out of curiosity, does anyone know the nature of CDE's
dependancy<BR>
&gt;&nbsp; &gt; on the Accelerated X server?&nbsp; I was thinking about
getting CDE,<BR>
&gt;&nbsp; &gt; but then noticed on the X Inside page about it it said
that<BR>
&gt;&nbsp; &gt; Accelerated X is required.<BR>
&gt;&nbsp;<BR>
&gt; Hello John,<BR>
&gt;&nbsp;<BR>
&gt; Thank you for your interest in our AcceleratedX CDE.<BR>
&gt;&nbsp;<BR>
&gt; We don't support CDE if you run an X server locally other than<BR>
&gt; AcceleratedX.&nbsp; This is due to the bugs in the XF86 code that
we would<BR>
&gt; otherwise have customers blaming us for.<BR>
&gt;&nbsp;<BR>
&gt; As well, CDE makes heavy use of the X server, so you want a fast X<BR>
&gt; server.&nbsp; Bundled prices from resellers such as WGS<BR>
&gt; (http://www.wgs.com/) usually include the AcceleratedX server at a<BR>
&gt; discount.&nbsp; The CDE CD-ROM includes both the Linux and FreeBSD<BR>
&gt; versions; the CDE install script detects which OS you are running
and<BR>
&gt; does the right thing.<BR>
&gt;&nbsp;<BR>
&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>
&gt;&nbsp; &gt; I'd also be interested to know how much memory (vss and
typical<BR>
&gt;&nbsp; &gt; rss) the window manager, session manager, file manager
and<BR>
&gt;&nbsp; &gt; friends sucks up.&nbsp; On a 32 megabyte 100MHz Pentium
box, would<BR>
&gt;&nbsp; &gt; there be anything left to actually run anything without<BR>
&gt;&nbsp; &gt; thrashing?<BR>
&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>
&gt;&nbsp; &gt; -john<BR>
&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>
&gt;&nbsp;<BR>
&gt; CDE -will- run even in 16MB.&nbsp; However you will see some swapping
even<BR>
&gt; just switching between workspaces.&nbsp; The 32MB that you have should
be<BR>
&gt; just fine, of course more memory is always better :-) .&nbsp; Do remember<BR>
&gt; that you are running (probably) a high-color X server + X clients
+<BR>
&gt; Motif libraries + Dtwm (based on mwm) + ToolTalk (RPC) daemons.<BR>
&gt; Plus any other applications and daemons that you run.<BR>
&gt;&nbsp;<BR>
&gt; The only reason that I have more than 32MB RAM in my machine is due
to<BR>
&gt; running a 12MB Netscape and a 20MB XEmacs process at the same time
;)<BR>
&gt;&nbsp;<BR>
&gt; Cordially<BR>
&gt; --<BR>
&gt; Patrick Giagnocavo - support@xinside.com<BR>
&gt; Xi Graphics&nbsp; - Accelerated X Servers<BR>
&gt; Technical Support Department<BR>
</DT>

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