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Date:      Wed, 21 Jul 2004 10:10:07 +0100
From:      Doug Rabson <dfr@nlsystems.com>
To:        freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Cc:        arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: kldunload DIAGNOSTIC idea...
Message-ID:  <200407211010.08159.dfr@nlsystems.com>
In-Reply-To: <40FD6E25.1080808@samsco.org>
References:  <20040720183213.GC1009@green.homeunix.org> <20040720185236.GD1009@green.homeunix.org> <40FD6E25.1080808@samsco.org>

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On Tuesday 20 July 2004 20:10, Scott Long wrote:
> Brian Fundakowski Feldman wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 08:39:57PM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> >>In message <20040720183213.GC1009@green.homeunix.org>, Brian
> >> Fundakowski Feldma
> >>
> >>n writes:
> >>>On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 08:20:23PM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> >>>>I'm pulling hair out trying to make it guaranteed safe to unload
> >>>> device driver modules, and the major pain here is to make sure
> >>>> there is no thread stuck somewhere inside the code.
> >>>>
> >>>>That gave me the idea for a simple little DIAGNOSTIC check for
> >>>> kldunload: run through the proc/thread table and look for any
> >>>> thread with an instruction counter inside the range of pages we
> >>>> are going to unload.
> >>>>
> >>>>Any takers ?
> >>>
> >>>You mean any thread with a stack trace that includes an
> >>> instruction counter inside those pages, don't you?
> >>
> >>That would require us to unwind the stack which I think is overkill
> >>for the purpose.
> >>
> >>The most likely case is that the thread is sleeping on something
> >>inside the kld so just checking the instruction pointer would be
> >>fine.
> >>
> >>Looking for sleep addresses inside the module might make sense too.
> >
> > It's probably not overkill -- at least in my experience most of the
> > time a driver is "doing something" it is sleeping, so the address
> > will be in mi_switch() or somewhere way out there.  Sleep addresses
> > on dynamic data addresses are also a lot more common than sleep
> > addresses on static/code addresses.  If someone is interested in
> > doign this, it would be very informative, especially if it could
> > catch sleeps, pending timeouts, pending callouts, etc.
>
> busdma callbacks, cam callbacks, netisr callbacks, and on and on and
> on.

The original intention was that drivers use the 
device_busy()/device_unbusy() counter to handle these things. In some 
cases, just calling device_busy() from fooopen() and device_unbusy() 
from fooclose() is sufficient.



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