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Date:      Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:17:52 +0100
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Chris <chrcoluk@gmail.com>
Cc:        Tore Lund <toreld@netscape.net>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: stability of FreeBSD 7 Beta 3?
Message-ID:  <474B4610.5020702@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <3aaaa3a0711260734tb0a46a3kac3b423bfd89582b@mail.gmail.com>
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Chris wrote:
> On 26/11/2007, Kris Kennaway <kris@freebsd.org> wrote:
>> Tore Lund wrote:
>>> Ivan Voras wrote:
>>>> Dave wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>    How stable is FreeBSD 7 Beta 3? Is it near production are their any
>>>>> outstanding issues?
>>>> Probably no major bugs will be fixed between now and 7.0 so you might as
>>>> well start using it now.
>>>>
>>>> It's "stable enough" like all .0 releases, meaning you should throughly
>>>> test it for your own workload before using it in production.
>>> Just curious, what is the "official" forum for pre-release discussions?
>>> I notice there are some threads on the "current" list, but it seems to
>>> me that this is really "questions" stuff, since it is an upcoming release.
>> freebsd-stable is probably best.
>>
>>> In any case, I tried the boot-only CD, and I was not able to install any
>>> packages during the install process.  Sysinstall aborted with Signal 11
>>> when trying to read INDEX from the ftp site.  Pkg_add from the command
>>> line seems to work, however, so it looks like I may get online from
>>> 7.0-BETA3 tomorrow.
>> That is expected, packages are not available until later in the release
>> cycle.
>>
>>> Moreover, wasn't there supposed to be a new install program?  I have
>>> read some promising remarks about it, but it's certainly not part of
>>> 7.0-BETA3.  Personally, I would much rather type a long list of commands
>>> than use the old, rickety sysinstall.
>> One is in early development, but not even complete let alone ready to
>> replace sysinstall.
>>
>> Kris
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> 
> Kris can I ask what sort of importance bugs that cause crashes (page
> faults) are?
> I reported 2 bugs before BETA1 both these bugs involved 7.0 getting a
> page fault and of course then stop responding requiring a reboot yet
> both PRs have had no response and both bugs are still present in BETA3
> I see minor issues been worked on such as responsiveness in desktop
> use whilst issues that cause system crashes are left unattended.  Is
> FreeBSD primarily a desktop os now and thats the new path?

Of course not :P  What are the PR references?

> Try this.
> 
> Login to twice on ssh.
> If not root su both to root.
> using the 2nd tty do a watch -W on the first tty.
> on the first tty type 'killall watch'
> you have now crashed freebsd 7 and most probably a auto reboot timer
> is counting down.

I can confirm this.

> Even typing reboot to reboot the server causes page faults.

But not this.

Kris




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