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Date:      Thu, 7 Dec 2017 07:51:15 -0500
From:      Baho Utot <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com>
To:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: THANK YOU for flavors!
Message-ID:  <98c8597a-1db1-b1f6-2aa3-4f09b9a52c59@columbus.rr.com>
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On 12/07/17 04:30, Johan Hendriks wrote:
> Op 07/12/2017 om 00:51 schreef Mel Pilgrim:
>> In the midst of all the negative noise, I thought I'd post and say
>> thank you for bring in this feature.  I've been chomping at the bit to
>> try flavours out since I heard about them.  I started flavouring my
>> company's internal Ports Tree extension the evening after it landed.
>>
>> Flavours are going to reduce 18 server role metaports to 3.
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> Do you have a web page where flavours are explained nicely for non
> technical FreeBSD users so that they can also see the benefits of
> flavour. I think it is a little odd that a big change like this is not
> mentioned in any way on the front page of FreeBSD.
> I really believe things are better this way albeit i did not read and
> understand it in a whole. I also believe flavours are nice in a multi
> server envirement and on the desktop.
> The negative noice comes from people who USE FreeBSD on a single machine
> or maybe 2 and are now confronted with there old habbits not working
> anymore.
> Give those people a walkthrough how they can run poudriere. Best without
> out a server but just a oneliner they need to remeber for future
> updates. They do not want to spend too much time reading and trying to
> update there system.
> If FreeBSD has done that i think that was lot less negative noice on the
> channels.
> 
> Secondly I want to thank you all for the great product FreeBSD is and it
> is a great product thanks to all the time people infest into FreeBSD.
> So thank you all. But i also hope FreeBSD learns from these big changes.
> If FreeBSD want a larger userbase, single machine users are there. And
> they do not want to spend an hour reading through a poudriere man page.
> They just want to type pgk upgrade, portmaster -d -a, or maybe poudriere
> update ports for all that matters.
> 

users also don't want to wake up to the fact that what worked a few days 
ago not is working ie fetch/update port repo run synth and then get a " 
What the fuck has just happened now" only to be put down by the so 
called folks in charge here for even asking.






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