Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 21:18:07 +0100 From: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> To: Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org> Cc: Julian Elischer <julian@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Importing djb's public domain daemontools? Message-ID: <20120117201807.GJ4729@azathoth.lan> In-Reply-To: <CAGE5yCp11A8f0RQMxPjJ0p774EjfbRi6P%2BbQZ=WVpbncEmwyjQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAETOPp2Wcww1_fPonru0c6XoX%2BAV_HWoGZKiEMvmY50a5%2ByxRQ@mail.gmail.com> <4F14E291.5090803@FreeBSD.org> <CAETOPp1z0TJecz8kjDvf7trEOS5eogrcqEtDveUYzN=J-SvDNQ@mail.gmail.com> <4F1502CD.90409@FreeBSD.org> <E4B18E7A-74A1-4388-AD79-05DD3E667DAE@bsdimp.com> <4F152475.50503@FreeBSD.org> <33752E6C-E016-4C7E-92DD-97B531D185E7@bsdimp.com> <4F15BB21.50905@freebsd.org> <CAGE5yCp11A8f0RQMxPjJ0p774EjfbRi6P%2BbQZ=WVpbncEmwyjQ@mail.gmail.com>
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--+Hr//EUsa8//ouuB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:51:09AM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org> wr= ote: > > On 1/17/12 9:29 AM, Warner Losh wrote: > >> > >> =A0I have spent time with djb-ites in other areas. I tend to ignore > >> =A0their ranker and focus on the technical issues. I've had issues with > >> =A0pidfiles and such in the past. There are a lot of hacks to get arou= nd > >> =A0those issues, and things mostly work. If there's a good alternative > >> =A0that can be demonstrated to work and gain us additional > >> =A0functionality, I'm all for it. I've fought with init() to make it > >> =A0keep important daemons around should they die. I've worked with oth= er > >> =A0systems that make it easy to do and miss that on FreeBSD. It is > >> =A0possible, but not easy. If daemontools makes it easy, we should > >> =A0evaluate it. > > > > > > > > don't forget other alternatives.. > > > > for example we have launchd from apple which is quite a well > > tested entry in the "init" space of solutions. >=20 > At the risk of prolonging the discussion.. >=20 > We use daemontools at work and I find it horrid to work with. Really hor= rid. >=20 > However, I do miss a real, pluggable services manager/starter/etc. > launchd springs to mind, if only it wasn't .plist based. >=20 Shouldn't be hard to plug a better format to launchd, something like yaml (= Yes I do like yaml :)) for example. what was the final statement of the launchd port summer of code? Can we have something as simple as the current rc with launchd? (for end us= ers) regards, Bapt --+Hr//EUsa8//ouuB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk8V138ACgkQ8kTtMUmk6EyX7wCcC3EmTqffz6+yppfh3FBbRFlh gVUAn2EceIG2Eok7mNvlUm6cEvOm2ZpE =yFov -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+Hr//EUsa8//ouuB--
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