Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 23:24:33 -0700 From: "Peter Wemm" <peter@wemm.org> To: "Ed Schouten" <ed@80386.nl> Cc: Peter Jeremy <peterjeremy@optushome.com.au>, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Arch <arch@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Reminder: non-mpsafetty drivers to be *dis*connected on Sunday Message-ID: <e7db6d980808012324i60fdabcfj2557f61d6636dccd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20080801134435.GQ99951@hoeg.nl> References: <20080801124845.GZ1359@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <64491.1217595198@critter.freebsd.dk> <20080801132624.GG1359@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20080801134435.GQ99951@hoeg.nl>
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On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 6:44 AM, Ed Schouten <ed@80386.nl> wrote: > Hello Peter, > > * Peter Jeremy <peterjeremy@optushome.com.au> wrote: >> On 2008-Aug-01 12:53:18 +0000, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> wrote: >> >I got a syntax error on this email Peter, didn't you mean to write: >> > >> >"Great work Ed, let me send you some patches" >> >> I would love to be able to send some patches. In order to do so, I >> need some information about how to interface with the MPSAFE TTY >> subsystem and how to adapt an existing driver. I am not the only >> person to have indicated a need for some hand-holding and I was under >> the impression that Ed would provide this but, to date, all I have is >> suggestions to look at patched drivers. > > I guess things went wrong, because I probably confused you with Peter > Wemm (I know - I'm bad with names), who inquired about si(4). I did send > him a message some time ago, to see if we could make an appointment to > discuss how we could get si(4) working. > > Even though I agree with you that we need more documentation on the TTY > layer's internals, my opinion is that other people should have shown > more interest from the start. When I sent a message a couple of weeks > ago, I almost immediately got a response from Alexander Kabaev (kan@). > He wanted to help me with the dcons(4) driver, which he did. I just > said: take a look at what I did to uart(4) and the console drivers and > gave him some random advice. He was able to send me an almost flawless > diff in a matter of hours, which he committed to the mpsafetty branch > himself! > > Maybe I'm replying to too many messages at the same time, but as John > said, it's a lot easier making the remaining drivers work after the code > has been integrated. It's not like we're permanently carving things into > stone - we've almost got a full year to get it all working again. I'll be happy to work on si(4) once the code hits the tree. Don't let si(4) get in the way. I have actual hardware (and use it 24x7), so I've got some incentive. -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI6FJV "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 "If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete themselves upon execution." -- Robert Sewell
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