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Date:      Tue, 11 Jul 2000 00:56:17 +0900
From:      "Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs@newsguy.com>
To:        John Reynolds~ <jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com>
Cc:        freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: 4.1-RELEASE
Message-ID:  <3969F221.34F78CE6@newsguy.com>
References:  <200007101408.KAA18231@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com> <3969EBAC.4DBE9FCF@newsguy.com> <14697.60996.49690.839290@hip186.ch.intel.com>

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John Reynolds~ wrote:
> 
> In what respects? Source-level build procedures (which seem to be confusing
> people--the whole buildkernel/installkernel thing)? Secure changes? Let us
> know the issues and maybe those who can install the RC snaps can focus on
> those areas for testing.

I had to chuckle here... :-) The issues 4.1 will have are whatever it is
that doesn't get enough testing! :-)

We now have seen a HUGE merging effort. Fortunately, this is quite
different from the usual "I need to get this feature in there before
release!" effect that have plagued is before. But it still opens a lot
of room for problems.

And, then, I think we'll have no "CD candidates", as we had with 4.0, to
test the actual _cd_ distribution, which is something that often bite
us.

All I can say is... test whatever you are familiar with, whatever
features you exercise more heavily than usual. One is more likely to
spot bugs this way.

Then again, testing things you have never done before is also good to
spot assumptions we make that are not clear to beginners, so we can
document then more clearly. You are also more likely to make mistakes
that the system ought to have been more forthcome in preventing. This is
more in regards to the installation process itself, and the usability of
the system after the installation is done (is something being forgotten?
was all that needs to be setup automatically done? did we need to state
the need for some post-installation manual setups that we forgot? etc).

> > I'd personally appreciate any help those on the Quality Assurance list
> > can give us.
> 
> I can only assume that Jordan will be rolling at least 1 4.1-RC release -and-
> putting an ISO up for download?

I don't know. That was not my impression. But rather than spread
misinformation here, better just let Jordan speak. So, Jordan? :-)

-- 
Daniel C. Sobral			(8-DCS)
dcs@newsguy.com
dcs@freebsd.org
capo@the.great.underground.bsdconpiracy.org

		<jkh> _DES: The Book of Bruce has only one sentence in it, and it says
"the actual directives of my cult are left as an exercise for the
reader. Good luck."
		<EE> jkh: does it really include the 'good luck' part?
		<jkh> EE: OK, I made that part up.
		<jkh> EE: I figured it should sound a bit more cheery than how Bruce
initially dictated it to me.


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