Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 09:02:06 -0800 From: Rob Ballantyne <robballantyne3@gmail.com> To: FreeBSD PowerPC ML <freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 PPC64 on XServe G5 hangs at Openfirmware Loader [likely an example of a long standing problem] Message-ID: <CAKLrb5c68XV=-CQdhw%2BbOJDa92nfB%2BBtrZfi7KpvAqiQf71P6w@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAMtLt3uFz8Rx%2BRaQrKN0J0Sf34%2BCAS4ow888TP%2BMz298Ze65sQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <DB500816-8269-40E0-985E-5A91FCD369F1@dsl-only.net> <CACcTwY=1qMqVz%2BXQSBkUcyXpU4Li=EBP_=S04dwcLzOczKPO4Q@mail.gmail.com> <5493BFF5.3050605@freebsd.org> <6F9F9905-3E6B-42FC-9BB2-9FDBAD9A64B4@gmail.com> <CAMtLt3uFz8Rx%2BRaQrKN0J0Sf34%2BCAS4ow888TP%2BMz298Ze65sQ@mail.gmail.com>
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I don't recall the specifics but I think that I found a USB filesystem devalias and after a couple of attempts managed to get the right boot string. On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Britt Dodd <brittman914@gmail.com> wrote: > > Oh nice! How'd you get the G5 to boot the memstick image? I wasn't aware > that OF would boot non Mac-OS memory sticks... > > On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Rob Ballantyne <robballantyne3@gmail.com > > > wrote: > > > I can confirm memstick 64-bit install worked on a G5 quad. I also note > > that I only tried the memstick after I failed to get the ISO to boot > > properly. > > > > Rob B. > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > On Dec 18, 2014, at 10:04 PM, Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org > > > > wrote: > > > > > > I believe there is a similar issue affecting sparc64. It seems like the > > ISO9660 support in loader may be broken on big-endian systems. Can you > > check if the ppc64 memstick image boots OK? > > > -Nathan > > > > > >> On 12/18/14 18:29, Bill Sorenson wrote: > > >> > > >> I can confirm that 10.1-RELENG and 10-STABLE will boot at least an > > XServe G5 when built from source on a running 10.0-RELEASE install. > Problem > > appears specific to the iso from what I can tell. Although I've been > wrong > > before. I'm not sure how the isos are generated in the release process so > > no idea if it makes sense. > > >> > > >> -Bill S. > > >> > > >> On Dec 18, 2014 8:22 PM, "Mark Millard" <markmi@dsl-only.net <mailto: > > markmi@dsl-only.net>> wrote: > > >> > > >> I've included a reminder (a past exchange) that makes this report > > >> sounds like a long standing problem with powerpc64 10.x-STABLE > > >> .iso's burned to CDs for PowerMac G5's. > > >> > > >> As I remember 10.0-RELEASE's .iso worked and is eventually how I > > >> bootstrapped. 10.1-RELEASE did not work when I tried it. (See > > >> > > > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-November/007328.html > > >> .) > > >> > > >> I've never had 10.x-STABLE .iso's work in a PowerMac G5. (I've no > > >> XServe access, just access to some desktop PowerMac G5's.) My > > >> tries do not go all the way back to the first 10.0-STABLE .iso, > > >> however. As I remember I started trying in 2014-Apr or so. > > >> Eventually I stopped checking each new 10.0-STABLE but did check > > >> some as time went on. > > >> > > >> > > >> From: Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org > > >> <mailto:nwhitehorn@freebsd.org>> > > >> Subject: Re: Running FreeBSD-ppc/ppc64 on emulators? [.iso based > > >> CD boot problems exist for PowerMac G5's too] > > >> Date: July 26, 2014 at 11:40:28 PM PDT > > >> To: Mark Millard <markmi@dsl-only.net > > >> <mailto:markmi@dsl-only.net>>, freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org > > >> <mailto:freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org> > > >> > > >> Interesting. It seems loader is broken. I just tried with a > > >> 10.0-STABLE image and can reproduce the problem -- 11 oddly is OK. > > >> What really perplexes me is that the powerpc and powerpc64 loaders > > >> are identical, since loader is built 32-bit in either case. Super > > >> weird. I'll try to get it fixed. Thanks for the problem report and > > >> reminder! > > >> -Nathan > > >> > > >> On 07/26/14 23:33, Mark Millard wrote: > > >> > > >> To make clear about the "/" in the line: > > >> > > >> and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The > > >> fans then gradually spin up. > > >> > > >> This "progress indicator" is the repeating sequence -, \, |, /. It > > >> always stopped with / as I remember. But I've no clue for if that > > >> is from the repeating sequence or is the leading / from > > >> /boot/kernel/kernel. At this point I'm limited to reporting just > > >> the visual result, not the internal stage it is tied to. > > >> > > >> === > > >> Mark Millard > > >> markmi at dsl-only.net <http://dsl-only.net>; > > >> > > >> On Jul 26, 2014, at 7:53 PM, Mark Millard <markmi@dsl-only.net > > >> <mailto:markmi@dsl-only.net>> wrote: > > >> First I quote what I wrote about when the hangups occur on the > > >> G5's (combining quotes from the two messages so the overall notes > > >> are easier to understand): > > >> > > >> For a C-key style boot it hangs shortly after displaying > > >> > > >> loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf > > >> > > >> and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The > > >> fans then gradually spin up. > > >> > > >> In other words: It hangs just before it would normally display the > > >> line that includes the text: /boot/kernel/kernel > > >> > > >> The original messages were: > > >> > > >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007029.html > > >> and > > >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007056.html > > >> > > >> Even the /b prefix from /boot/kernel/kernel did not show up even > > >> though /boot/defaults/loader.conf did show up just fine. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> As for trying 11-CURRENT: I've not tried 11-CURRENT for anything > > >> yet. And, unfortunately, I'm now away from the PowerMacs for weeks > > >> so I will not be doing new experiments for several weeks. I can > > >> try once I get back. > > >> > > >> All the 9.2/9.3-STABLE's that I tried worked. And 10.0-RELELASE > > >> worked. Any 10.0-STABLE from before about Apr-27 I've never tried: > > >> Late April is about when I started the experiments with PowerMacs. > > >> > > >> Also: I had no troubles with 10.0-STABLE for powerpc on PowerMacs. > > >> PowerPC64 on PowerMac G5's is where I had problems. (I do not have > > >> other kinds of PowerPC equipment available.) > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> === > > >> Mark Millard > > >> markmi at dsl-only.net <http://dsl-only.net>; > > >> > > >> On Jul 26, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Mark Millard <markmi@dsl-only.net > > >> <mailto:markmi@dsl-only.net>> wrote: > > >> This boot issue from .iso's (burned to CDs) is not specific to > > >> emulation (assuming it is the same problem in both places). > > >> > > >> I'm afraid that it sounds like PowerMac G5's hang the same > > >> way/place whenever I've tried a fairly modern PowerPC64 > > >> 10.0-STABLE .iso burned to a CD. I was able to boot 10.0-RELEASE's > > >> .iso burned to a CD. I've not tried emulation. > > >> > > >> Having an initial FreeBSD running I tend to use the MANIFEST and > > >> .txz files with "bsdinstall auto" to make new from-scratch (not > > >> buildworld/buildkernel) installations when I want such. > > >> > > >> My notes on the G5 boot issue for the .iso's burned to CD's were > > >> reported in: (I'm not near the PowerMacs, unfortunately) > > >> > > >> FreeBSD 10-STABLE powerpc64 r266807 CD PowerMac7, 2 (and 7, 11) > > >> boot hangs very early in the process > > >> > > >> Has anyone booted a G5 PowerMac from a recent 10.0-STABLE .iso > > >> burned to CD? A multi-processor one? > > >> > > >> === > > >> Mark Millard > > >> markmi at dsl-only.net <http://dsl-only.net>; > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> === > > >> Mark Millard > > >> markmi at dsl-only.net <http://dsl-only.net>; > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org <mailto:freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org> mailing > > list > > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > >> "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > > >> <mailto:freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org>" > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >
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