Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 15:41:43 -0800 From: Sean Eric Fagan <sef@Kithrup.COM> To: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Terry: a bystanders view... Message-ID: <199701222341.PAA16094@kithrup.com> In-Reply-To: <199701221759.SAA01019.kithrup.freebsd.hackers@yedi.iaf.nl>
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In article <199701221759.SAA01019.kithrup.freebsd.hackers@yedi.iaf.nl> you write: >Being just an innocent (...) bystander I cannot help wondering why >you people don't create a freebsd-nitpicking list. I sincerely doubt >that devoting 50% of -hackers traffic to some incrowd discussion >serves any purpose. ;-) Because Terry pops up on nearly every technical thread, and has been doing so for, what, three years now? Four years? Ever since 386BSD days, anyway. And his messages have a tendency to be *long*, and to say how everyone is doing things wrong -- but, despite that, there have been few messages with *code* in them. Various people get very, very tired of this after a while. Frankly, I like Terry. I enjoy reading his diatribes, because they usually have something useful in them. (The recent messages being an exception -- sorry, Terry.) And I often ask his advice or opinion about some code I'm working on. But I do understand how people get frustrated, and this frustration works its way out as a vent periodically. This is only the most recent one, although it's probably the longest. I also understand Terry's frustration at being asked for piecemeal patches when he's been working on the whole thing. I hadn't thought about putting up an entire TerryOS system to look at it, though. I hope that happens. On the freebsd lists, sending out a long message with code is more likely to get attention than sending out a long message with discussions. And before Terry (or sympathizers ;)) get too upset: after all this time, after all the frustration and gnashing of teeth, people are still reading his messages. I assume that's because they do think he has something worth listening to. At least part of the time ;). Sean.
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