Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 11:19:08 -0600 From: "Joshua Armstrong" <jarmstrong@wi.rr.com> To: <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, <freebsd-arch@freebsd.org> Subject: RE: The future of fortune(6) Message-ID: <004d01d363b6$031b12e0$095138a0$@wi.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <003c01d363b1$c31ee760$495cb620$@wi.rr.com> References: <66D39828-ADBA-4973-BEB8-B2F6657E9996@FreeBSD.org> <CANCZdfr-t-iG_zwWQTwtoN-U7JzmySh2n5FgnXcFzh6MNZScfg@mail.gmail.com> <003c01d363b1$c31ee760$495cb620$@wi.rr.com>
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-----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org = [mailto:owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Warner Losh Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 10:36 AM To: Benno Rice Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The future of fortune(6) On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Benno Rice <benno@freebsd.org> wrote: > Hello, all! > > With the removal of the fortune datfiles I think it=E2=80=99s time to = have a=20 > discussion about fortune(6). > > fortune now defaults to using a fortune file that no longer exists: > > $ fortune > No fortunes found in /usr/share/games/fortune:/usr/=20 > local/share/games/fortune. > > fortune is still used in the default .login/.profile to show entries=20 > from the still existing freebsd-tips: > > $ grep fortune /usr/share/skel/* > /usr/share/skel/dot.login:if ( -x /usr/bin/fortune ) /usr/bin/fortune=20 > freebsd-tips /usr/share/skel/dot.profile:if [ -x /usr/bin/fortune ] ;=20 > then /usr/bin/fortune freebsd-tips ; fi $ fortune freebsd-tips If you=20 > need a reminder to leave your terminal, type "leave +hhmm" where=20 > "hhmm" represents in how many hours and minutes you need to leave. > -- Dru <genesis@istar.ca> > > fortune also still has flags for showing offensive entries and the = like. > > I would like people=E2=80=99s opinion on which of the following two = paths we=20 > should take: > > 1) Complete removal of fortune and freebsd-tips, remove its usage from = > the default .login/.profile files. > > 2) Reworking fortune(6) to remove the offensive fortune flag and make=20 > freebsd-tips the default, possibly by symlinking it as=20 > /usr/share/games/fortune/fortunes. > > Personally I lean towards the first option. > >(3) Do #1 except replace fortune with a single line shell script: > >#!/bin/sh > >to not break everybody's login scripts. Possibly with an optional echo = "please remove fortune from .profile/.cshrc" > >I personally lean towards #2 though. I think the freebsd-tips are = useful. > >Warner I also think the tips on login are helpful. I would be in favor of = making freebsd-tips the default cookie file (with the possibility of = supplying other files as well) and removing the offensive option. Sorry for top-posting before. I had no idea that MS Outlook was so = terrible. :( -Joshua
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