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Date:      Sat, 7 Dec 2013 13:27:33 +0100
From:      Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: pkg repo for 9.2-RELEASE
Message-ID:  <20131207122733.GD76976@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net>
In-Reply-To: <20131207062126.GB80282@zxy.spb.ru>
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On Sat, Dec 07, 2013 at 10:21:26AM +0400, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 11:32:05PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>=20
> > On Sat, Dec 07, 2013 at 02:28:42AM +0400, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 11:15:09PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > >=20
> > > > On Sat, Dec 07, 2013 at 12:44:44AM +0400, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 05:41:12PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrot=
e:
> > > > >=20
> > > > > > On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 11:22:29PM +0400, Slawa Olhovchenkov wr=
ote:
> > > > > > > Where I can find corectly builded pkgNG packages for 9.2-RELE=
ASE?
> > > > > > > Packages on official site (pkg0.bme.freebsd.org, for ex.) bui=
lded on
> > > > > > > incorrect, outdated FreeBSD verion (may be 9.1-RELEASE):
> > > > > > > freeradius3 build with libssl verion 90818f and can't be run =
on
> > > > > > > 9.2-RELEASE:
> > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > # radiusd -X
> > > > > > > libssl version mismatch.  Built with: 90818f   Linked: 90819f
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > The abi is compatible that should run of radius should be patch=
ed to to accept
> > > > > > both version.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The freeradius3 should be informed to allow this to run.
> > > > >=20
> > > > > As I see in source freeradius3 use strict version check and don't=
 have
> > > > > compatible lists.
> > > > >=20
> > > > > What is trouble to use latest FreeBSD RELENG to build pkgNG
> > > > > packages?
> > > > >=20
> > > > > 9.0-p7 and 9.1-p2 have openssl 90819f (r249029).
> > > > >=20
> > > > > Also, virtualbox-ose-kmod have strict version dependens to kernel.
> > > >=20
> > > > We have always build the packages on the lowest version of a releas=
e branch
> > > > because we ensure binary compatibility, kmods does not have a stric=
t version
> > >=20
> > > In real world we have incompatibility for freeradius and freeradius3,
> > > for virtualbox-kmod, for filesystem modules (fuse and some others?)
> > >=20
> > > 20121224:
> > >         The VFS KBI was changed with the merge of several nullfs
> > >         optimizations and fixes.  All filesystem modules must be
> > >         recompiled.
> > >=20
> > > 20120106:
> > >         A new VOP_ADVISE() was added to support posix_fadvise(2).  All
> > >         filesystem modules must be recompiled.
> > >=20
> > > > depends on the kernel, they should be loadable on newest kernel of =
the same
> > > > branch.
> > >=20
> > > In real world kmods of virtualbox loaded, but don't worked (kernel
> > > crashed).
> >=20
> > That is a major problem which doesn't only concern packaging
> >=20
> > That should not happen in a stable branch, and should have been reporte=
d and
> > prevented :( That is defeating lot of our policies and inpacted more th=
an just
> > package building.
> >=20
> > All our actual policies for packaging are based on KBI and ABI stabilit=
y over
> > the lifetime of a branch
>=20
> It's not always posible. And I think best way is correctly support
> last -SECURITY instead of obsolete -RELEASE.

My bad that is what we are supposed to do, I'll double check the builders
thanks!

regards,
Bapt

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