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Date:      Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:25:33 -0500
From:      "David L. Vondrasek" <dallas.tx@airmail.net>
To:        <charlespeters@tecpro.com>, <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        c_peters@bellsouth.net, charlespeters@tecpro.com, charlespeters@chickenbean.com
Subject:   Re: Mail being returned to senders (My ISP is not relaying some of my mail from certain domains)
Message-ID:  <m0zVhRg-0005iIG@mail.airmail.net>
In-Reply-To: <000201bdfc45$6e04e740$c8730418@ci1000971-d.sptnbrg1.sc.hom e.com>

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At 12:19 PM 10/20/98 -0400, Charles A. Peters wrote:
>I am having a problem with email being returned to
>senders, but I am unable to assure myself that it is
>my server (chickenbean.com and alias tecpro.com) or my
>IPS's server (ais.ais-gwd.com).  The mail being
>returned is from certain domains, such as sprint.ca,
>clemson.edu, aol.com, gte.com, etc.
>
>This is a very big problem for me and my customers
>(those users who have email accounts on my server).
>
>My isp tells me that they have not changed anything in
>their network configuration in the last few weeks.
>They also insist that their server is not the root of
>my problem.  They are not very helpful.
>
>I am including, at the end of this message, a copy of
>a message sent to me by someone whose messages have
>been returned.
>
>Any assistance would be appreciated!
>
>Thanks in advance for your assistance.
>
>If you reply to this message gets returned, you may
>send me a reply at c_peters@bellsouth.net, as this
>address usually works.
>
>
>Charles
>
>mailto:c_peters@bellsouth.net
>mailto:charlespeters@tecpro.com
>mailto:charlespeters@chickenbean.com
>

You need to fix a few other things 1st.

The original message was received at Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:32:22 -0400 (EDT)
from mail.airmail.net [206.66.12.40]

   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<charlespeters@tecpro.com>

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
554 MX list for tecpro.com. points back to ais.ais-gwd.com
554 <charlespeters@tecpro.com>... Local configuration error
Reporting-MTA: dns; ais.ais-gwd.com
Received-From-MTA: DNS; mail.airmail.net
Arrival-Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:32:22 -0400 (EDT)



The problem is easy :) We do the same at our ISP. we have relaying
turned off to stop a open relay for spamming. ALL mail servers should be
doing this.

Their server will not RELAY any mail not from their domain. If they do not
have THEIR mail server to ALLOW your domain it will me rejected with the
error above. I'll assume the following. You are using their mail server for
outbound mail ? And the return address's on the mail going to them is not
THEIR domain ? BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE * no relaying* 

Sounds like they upgraded to a newer version of Smail or SENDMAIL that
defaults to NO RELAY.



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