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Date:      Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:30:31 -0500
From:      Josh Paetzel <jpaetzel@freebsd.org>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Cc:        Andy Wodfer <wodfer@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: Hardware RAID controller questions - 3Ware vs RocketRaid
Message-ID:  <201003181930.37822.jpaetzel@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <23ed14b81003180137n61261b5axa22677a0a7bbe544@mail.gmail.com>
References:  <23ed14b81003180137n61261b5axa22677a0a7bbe544@mail.gmail.com>

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On Thursday 18 March 2010 03:37:32 Andy Wodfer wrote:
> Hi,
> We're setting up two backup servers where each server will have about 4TB
> of harddrives (for now) connected (4x1TB and 8x500GB drives). Last night
> we ran into trouble with the 3ware controllers we have (9650SE-8LPML)
> because we couldn't create a larger RAID5 than 1.99TB.
>=20
> We are going to use FreeBSD 8.0 and Bacula, but first we obviously need to
> create a working RAID.
>=20
> My questions are:
>=20
> - Are HighPoint RocketRaid controllers a good alternative to 3ware
> controllers? Are RocketRaid controllers true hardware RAID?
>=20
> - What should we look for in a RAID controller spec to see that it has
> support for larger than 2TB RAIDs?
>=20
> I've been looking at these:
> http://www.highpoint-tech.com/USA_new/series_rr2300.htm
> http://www.highpoint-tech.com/USA_new/series_rr3500.htm
>=20
> Any FreeBSD recommendations? Or perhaps for another 3ware controller?
>=20
> We're using SATAII drives.
>=20
> Thanks for your help!
>=20
> Best regards,
> Andreas

You are hitting an issue with DOS MBR limitations, not the RAID controller=
=20
itself.  Either use GPT or put a filesystem on the raw device with no fdisk=
 at=20
all.  The latter strategy is the better one if you intend to ever grow the=
=20
filesystem.

3ware controllers are the best game in town for FreeBSD.  We use them=20
extensively both internally and for our customers at iXsystems.  You can fl=
ash=20
the controller firmware from in the OS on FreeBSD using tw_cli.

You might also consider running ZFS on the hardware RAID instead of UFS.  Y=
ou=20
get the advantages of running a hardware RAID controller, plus the advantag=
es=20
of ZFS (namely no fsck)

root@servant /usr/src ->tw_cli /c0 show

Unit  UnitType  Status         %RCmpl  %V/I/M  Stripe  Size(GB)  Cache  AVr=
fy
=2D------------------------------------------------------------------------=
=2D----
u0    RAID-6    OK             -       -       256K    5587.88   RiW    ON =
   =20

root@servant /usr/src ->grep 'da0' /var/run/dmesg.boot
da0 at twa0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: <AMCC 9690SA-4I4 DISK 4.08> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-5 device=20
da0: 100.000MB/s transfers
da0: 122879MB (251658239 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 15665C)

** small boot LUN

root@servant /usr/src ->grep 'da1' /var/run/dmesg.boot
da1 at twa0 bus 0 target 0 lun 1
da1: <AMCC 9690SA-4I4 DISK 4.08> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-5 device=20
da1: 100.000MB/s transfers
da1: 5599104MB (11466964993 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 713785C)

** The rest of it

root@servant /usr/src ->zpool  status -v
  pool: a
 state: ONLINE
 scrub: none requested
config:

        NAME        STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM
        a           ONLINE       0     0     0
          da1       ONLINE       0     0     0

errors: No known data errors

root@servant /usr/src ->df -h a
=46ilesystem    Size    Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
a             5.2T    2.2T    3.0T    42%    /a


=2D-=20
Thanks,

Josh Paetzel
=46reeBSD -- The power to serve

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