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Date:      Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:52:20 +1000
From:      Tim Robbins <tjr@FreeBSD.ORG>
To:        Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org>
Cc:        "Andrey A. Chernov" <ache@nagual.pp.ru>, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>, Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libncurses Makefile
Message-ID:  <20020925115220.A39397@dilbert.robbins.dropbear.id.au>
In-Reply-To: <20020924212009.77BDF2A7D6@canning.wemm.org>; from peter@wemm.org on Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 02:20:09PM -0700
References:  <20020924211110.GB61277@nagual.pp.ru> <20020924212009.77BDF2A7D6@canning.wemm.org>

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On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 02:20:09PM -0700, Peter Wemm wrote:

> "Andrey A. Chernov" wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 14:05:38 -0700, Peter Wemm wrote:
> > > 
> > > This particular "feature" is going to cause a *huge* amount of pain.
> > > I wouldn't be suprised if it costs us anouther 500-1000 unbuldable ports.
> > 
> > For ports we MUST set _POSIX2_VERSION=199209 in the bsd.port.mk
> 
> No, this is the equivalent of sticking our heads in the sand and pretending
> that we dont have a problem.  The Real World consists of much more than
> the ports tree.  The problems that the ports tree has are the only indication
> that we have about how the rest of the Real World code will fare with
> our releases.
> 
> Turn off the silly feature in sort(1) the first place.  Let people request
> it by setting _POSIX2_VERSION=200112 if they want to sort a filename that
> begins with a +.  Or, use 'sort ./+file' like they would already have to
> do for just about every other unix OS on the planet.

The problem isn't limited to just sort: tail has the same problem, and I
believe there were a few others. I think we need some way of specifying
which standard we want (by environment variable or sysctl), and to default
to being compatible with 7th edition.


Tim

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