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Date:      Tue, 26 Feb 2002 16:53:01 -0500
From:      Bosko Milekic <bmilekic@unixdaemons.com>
To:        Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
Cc:        Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>, Warner Losh <imp@harmony.village.org>, Jake Burkholder <jake@locore.ca>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/i386 exception.s genassym.c machdep.c mp_machdep.c mpapic.c swtch.s vm_machdep.c src/sys/i386/include cpufunc.h pcb.h src/sys/i386/isa apic_vector.s clock.c icu_vector.s intr_machdep.c intr_machdep.h npx.c src/sys/kern ...
Message-ID:  <20020226165301.A29286@unixdaemons.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0202261117520.94891-100000@InterJet.elischer.org>; from julian@elischer.org on Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 11:22:30AM -0800
References:  <200202261822.g1QIMcK95505@apollo.backplane.com> <Pine.BSF.4.21.0202261117520.94891-100000@InterJet.elischer.org>

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On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 11:22:30AM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote:
> JHB has had a 8 months to check in his stuff (hey the preemtion stuff was
> done in June) and since then it's only effect on the project has been to
> stiffle and stop all other development in the area.
> 
> I blame P4 for this in part.
> HE thinks he is being transparent to the rest of the community whereas he
> has a total viewing public of about 4.

  OK guys, now just a second. JHB clearly posted that _the preemption
  code is not ready yet_. What the heck are you trying to do? Make him
  commit broken code? Of all the people on this list, I would have
  thought you (Julian) to be the one that would most understand that
  sometimes, you just have to do it the `big changes all at once' way,
  as you have been doing, clearly, with KSE. It's understandable for
  pre-emption as well and the fact that JHB is taking his time to make
  sure that it's not broken on every architecture shouldn't be something
  that he should get sh*tted on for.

  Whether there are other (not-so-related) changes in the p4 repo that
  need to be weeded out and committed is another story. But don't blow
  this out of proportion, please.

> Consider this a test case.
> Core is appealled to. The blocking action of JHB's (good) work is doing
> more damage to the project than good. We need to be able to proceed
> without waiting for him...
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Matthew Dillon wrote:
> 
> > 
> > :
> > :In message <200202261806.g1QI6GL94130@apollo.backplane.com> Matthew Dillon writes:
> > ::     I will not back it out.  JHB has had issues with every single goddamn
> > ::     thing I've tried to do that has been SMP related.  JHB has had 
> > ::     patches going stale in P4 related to just about every file I've ever
> > ::     had to touch.  
> > :: 
> > ::     He has cried wolf one too many times.  It is totally inappropriate for
> > ::     JHB to put a lock on the entire SMP subsystem.
> > :: 
> > ::     JHB needs to get his act together.
> > :
> > :Matt,
> > :	These patches are in dispute and should not have been
> > :committed.  Please respect the FreeBSD process and back them out.
> > :This is totally unacceptible in the prioject.  While you may have some
> > :points about how smpng has been run, they do not justify this flagrant
> > :violation of long standing project proceedures.  Please back them out
> > :now.
> > :
> > :Warner
> > 
> >     I can only repeat what I've now said about a billion times.  JHB has
> >     no right to arbitrarily hold up my SMP contributions.  If he had done
> >     it just once it would not have been a problem.  I have no problem working
> >     with developers who are truely interested in working together.
> > 
> >     But he has done it four times now and that is one time too many.  I
> >     do not believe that he has the right.
> > 
> >     Core will have to back this out.  And if core does back this out I
> >     promise you that I will not rest until it goes back in.
> > 
> > 					-Matt
> > 					Matthew Dillon 
> > 					<dillon@backplane.com>
> > 
> 

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Bosko Milekic
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