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Date:      Sat, 11 Apr 2020 22:34:43 -0700
From:      Chris <bsd-lists@BSDforge.com>
To:        Toomas Soome <tsoome@me.com>
Cc:        freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Why is the console a graphic/bitmapped console, and not text/character by default
Message-ID:  <f8da7bb208de9c608f4a74856f72f4ab@udns.ultimatedns.net>
In-Reply-To: <2751595C-BBB8-46DF-ABC2-5CAD7B82176B@me.com>

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On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 08:04:43 +0300 Toomas Soome tsoome@me=2Ecom said

> You have UEFI setup? With UEFI, there is no text mode=2E
>=20
> If mouse copy/paste is working is not a property of screen mode but it if=
 the
> console driver does implement it or not=2E
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
>=20
> > On 12=2E Apr 2020, at 07:41, Chris <bsd-lists@bsdforge=2Ecom> wrote:
> >=20
> > =EF=BB=BFSorry for the ling title=2E But wasn't sure how make my
> > question more concise=2E
> > Why did we begin making an initial console "graphics mode"
> > by default=2E My understanding has always been that (Free)BSD
> > has been a "Server by default", and a Desktop after an initial
> > install if that's one chosen target=2E
> > It's near impossible to perform initial configuration
> > in graphics mode, using a mouse to cut/copy/paste does *not*
> > work as intended=2E Which requires one to make the necessary
> > changes "breaking to the new system" after install completes
> > to change initiation to test-mode before bouncing the box=2E
> > While this "works" for long-time users=2E It's an *extra*, and
> > seemingly *unnecessary* step=2E It is also likely to behoove
> > first-time/new users -- except those already targeting a
> > Desktop=2E
> >=20
> > Thanks for any insight into this! :)
> >=20
> > --Chris
> >=20
> >=20
With (U)EFI firmware, you're in graphics until the kernel takes over=2E
Where you can switch/change/obtain text/character mode=2E

I'm not we're talking about the same thing here=2E

--Chris





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