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Date:      Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:20:28 -0800 (PST)
From:      Matthew Jacob <mjacob@feral.com>
To:        Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: softupdates
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.04.9902111616120.15211-100000@feral-gw>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.95.990211131520.5561B-100000@current1.whistle.com>

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> > I was misremembering. Softupdates wasn't the issue here but there *had*
> > been some question about whether this was a problem with softupdates *not*
> > enabled- that was from way earlier- sorry for jumping into the wrong
> > thread and sorry for also probably letting a less than felicitous tone
> > enter this email- I think I'm just really irritated that I didn't get mail
> > back from Luoqi.
> 
> Luoqi was "out of contact" for a while.. (had a real life plus work)
> but he's not responsible for softupdates anyway. I am, and I didn't see

IIRC, I was specifically asked by Jordan to mail the issues to Luoqi and Kirk.

> any unresolved problems from you...
> There are two open issues with soft updates BTW.. 
> 
> One is that soft updates stresses the disks so hard that the WD driver
> gets into an infinite loop when in "single-block mode" (I've seen this a
> couple of times in tests here) (and can reproduce it, even looked at it in
> ddb but not totally solved it) (work-around is set flags to ide driver to
> allow multi-block or Ultra-DMA).

I'm working with servers, not desktop systems. I am working with at least
4 channels if not more. The disk units I'm using are either 60GB Adaptec
RAID units, or 150GB MegaDrive RAID units. That's for the large
stuff. The smaller stuff is anything from 1-10 9GB Seagate drives on
either Fibre Channel or parallel SCSI. Again, it's not clear that the
problem I have been seeing is a softupdates problem (modulo the
panic I saw this morning).

> 


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