Date: Sun, 16 May 2021 19:19:27 -0700 From: bob prohaska <fbsd@www.zefox.net> To: Kubilay Kocak <koobs@freebsd.org> Cc: FreeBSD ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Python 37/38 conflict, was Re: Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4 Message-ID: <20210517021927.GA66198@www.zefox.net> In-Reply-To: <802898bf-fb68-f648-b893-1bebb02d9c16@FreeBSD.org> References: <515FCC01-19A2-463C-8416-85D0BF0B4845.ref@yahoo.com> <515FCC01-19A2-463C-8416-85D0BF0B4845@yahoo.com> <20210514013518.GA46967@www.zefox.net> <18651bb2-4093-af83-da8f-d57553fffc9d@FreeBSD.org> <20210514163514.GA52420@www.zefox.net> <802898bf-fb68-f648-b893-1bebb02d9c16@FreeBSD.org>
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On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 12:24:49PM +1000, Kubilay Kocak wrote: > On 15/05/2021 2:35 am, bob prohaska wrote: > > > > I've never used IRC, is it somehow better than this list? > > Quicker isolation of root causes over async back and forth. Happy to go over > it with you at your favourite 'real-time medium' No real favorites. In emergencies I tend to pick up the telephone. This doesn't seem like an emergency, and in any case the phone is a poor medium for a problem like this. There are some ports under /usr/ports/irc, if you have suggestions I could try one or more. If a phone call is useful, my number is 530 753 2005, California PDT. The answering machine screens calls, I pick up if I recognize the caller's message. I can return calls anywhere in the lower 48. It's important to remember that even if the comms delay is zero my comprehension delay is much greater than zero. Sometimes infinite. That's apt to either bore or frustrate experts. Mark Millard is trying to give me an inkling of how poudriere works. It's a stunningly complex process, apparently approximating individual virtual hosts compiling each port. I'd like to see the ports system keep working as it has in the past, but that seemingly requires a kind of machine intelligence that hasn't evolved yet. Poudriere seems like a brute force approach. Persuading ports (and porters) to cooperate is more efficient if it's possible. Thanks for reading, and any thoughts you might have! bob prohaska
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