Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:18:43 +0100 From: Nick Barnes <Nick.Barnes@pobox.com> To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sshd vs ports sshd Message-ID: <60849.1026379123@thrush.ravenbrook.com> In-Reply-To: Message from Helge Oldach <helge.oldach@atosorigin.com> of "Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:23:16 %2B0200." <200207102123.XAA04329@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com>
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At 2002-07-10 21:23:16+0000, Helge Oldach writes: > Mike Jakubik: > >In no way am I saying that curtail services like syslogd or inetd should be > >taken out. But things like openssh, sendmail, certain libs, and basically > >most software that is available and up to date via the ports. > > No, it shouldn't. I want a full-function system with a decent MTA, a > decent secure login facility, a decent time synchronization facility, a > decent nameserver, and so on. I *don't* want a base system that isn't > good for anything but eating CPU. > > [...] It seems to me that everyone would appreciate a system delivered as a number of packages of some sort. Then if you wanted a system like the current release, you would install 'base', 'base-openssh', 'base-sendmail', 'base-bind' etc. The default install option in sysinstall would do all this, and so would "make installworld". If you want a more current SSH (say) you use a custom install option in sysinstall, or options to "make installworld" (e.g. in make.conf), or you _uninstall_ 'base-openssh', then you install the 'openssh-4.5q' package (or whatever). In fact, 'base' itself could potentially be rather tiny (does it need to include gcc, or perl)? I seem to recall, from the last time we went around this subject on -stable, that there is at least one project working on making this happen (possibly called "libh"). If you want this enough to gripe about it on -stable, maybe you want it enough to find out what the project is and help out. Nick Barnes Ravenbrook Limited To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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