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Date:      Fri, 05 Feb 2016 14:59:19 +0000
From:      bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org
To:        freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   [Bug 206922] Handbook: Chapter 4.5+ changes
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--- Comment #4 from John Marino <marino@FreeBSD.org> ---
(In reply to Warren Block from comment #3)

"At present, portmaster still has no direct competition.  It is a
no-dependencies shell script.  portupgrade is the closest thing, but Ruby a=
nd
ruby-bdb dependencies cause trouble on upgrades."

1) I disagree about the competition
2) it's irrelevant.  You can't recommend it officially and not have it
maintained, period.

"As far as maintenance, nobody wants to maintain dense shell script.  (The
reasons for portmaster being in sh are debatable in their own right, but not
relevant to this discussion.)"

Au contraire, it's the heart of the discussion.  No maintainer, get it out =
of
the documentation ASAP.

"Until there is a close replacement, or portmaster is no longer functional,
removing it from the documentation is premature.  That is not a statement on
the desirability of the situation, just an instance of BSD pragmatism."

It has a man page, it doesn't need to be in the freebsd handbook.

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There is a serious catch-22 going on.
The portmgr doesn't want to deprecate it as long as it is in documentation,=
 and
the docs guys don't want to remove it as long as it is in ports.=20=20

Both desires cannot exist.

you do NOT want new users of portmaster in this state.  You are not doing t=
hem
any service as all.

Why is the concept even a discussion?  How can you RECOMMEND non-maintained
buggy software in the official handbook?  Whether or not it has competition=
 is
irrelevant.

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