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Date:      Sun, 30 Oct 2005 16:16:06 -0700 (MST)
From:      "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        gurney_j@resnet.uoregon.edu
Cc:        Alexander@Leidinger.net, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, davidxu@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: TSC instead of ACPI: powerd doesn't work anymore (to be expected?)
Message-ID:  <20051030.161606.65680605.imp@bsdimp.com>
In-Reply-To: <20051030195936.GZ4115@funkthat.com>
References:  <20051030093718.GE39253@dragon.NUXI.org> <4364D90F.3090205@samsco.org> <20051030195936.GZ4115@funkthat.com>

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In message: <20051030195936.GZ4115@funkthat.com>
            John-Mark Gurney <gurney_j@resnet.uoregon.edu> writes:
: Scott Long wrote this message on Sun, Oct 30, 2005 at 07:30 -0700:
: > >Correct, but why is it felt the latency of the ACPI timer is an issue?
: > >Of course we all want things to as fast as possible, but is that just an
: > >abstract desire, or a real issue was run into?
: > >
: > 
: > ACPI-fast requires an ioport read which takes about 1us (according to 
: > Google).  Do that 1000 times a second and you have each CPU spending
: > 1% of its time doing nothing but reading the clock.  Yikes.
: 
: Math correction: .1%...  1us * 1000 = 1ms, 1ms = .001s, .001 * 100% = .1%

Actually, ioport reads can be faster than the 1us that's widely
quoted.  ioport reads can be as fast as ~125ns (2 cycles at 16MHz).
However, experience has shown that they are rarely this fast.  I've
seen 8MB/s pio over the pci bus on some custom hardware we have, which
2Mreads/sec which is about 500ns per read.  I think that the pci
hardware that I was reading had a few extra wait states...

The 1us/read is for devices on the ISA bus or for hardware that
emulates this timing.

Warner



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