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Date:      Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:44:37 -0400
From:      "Andresen,Jason R." <jandrese@mitre.org>
To:        Christian Chen <oistrakh@earthlink.net>
Cc:        Kal Torak <kaltorak@quake.com.au>, FreeBSD-stable <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: nVidia Cards /w FreeBSD (3D Acceleration)
Message-ID:  <3AD5B145.EF09CEA4@mitre.org>
References:  <20010412000523.I86970-100000@pirastro.oistrakh.org>

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Christian Chen wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Kal Torak wrote:
> > nVidia cards are really the ONLY choice to buy now... Not that Im complaining,
> 
> Maybe this is just *my* personal quirkiness, but does anyone else out there
> feel as though ATI's 2D performance is higher quality? And by higher quality,
> I don't mean _faster_, I mean _looks better_. When I replaced my nVidia
> card with an ATI Rage Fury Pro, and after that a Rage Fury Maxx, the text
> looked crisper, and images were sharper. Granted, these things are
> irrevelant to 3D gamers, but for all those sysadmins out there, it sure
> is nice having crisper console screens and xterms.
> 
> But maybe it's just me. Lots of people don't notice 60Hz scan rate
> flicker, but I do ...

2D performance, coupled with the Windows drivers has always kept me with
Matrox personally.  XFree-4 supports Xv with my G200 (hardware scaling
rules on full motion video, especally when you have a fixed frequency
1280x1024 monitor).  XFree will do Xv with newer ATI cards too IIRC, 
however in Windows (still have to reboot to play games and run the
occasional Window-only application, like VirtualDub) the ATI drivers
crash constantly and produce wierd side effects when they aren't 
crashing.  Most notably, the backing store on the mouse pointer tends
to break a lot, leaving me with an invisible mouse in Windows, and 
will leave blocks of garbage over any window that is updating while
the cursor passes over.  

Matrox on the other hand as wonderful Windows drivers (Unlike ATI, 
I've never seen a Windows crash inside MGADRAB.DLL).  

3D performance wise, the G series Matrox cards seem pretty comperable
to the equivelent ATI Rage chip.  The ATI cards tend to work better
at lower resolutions than the Matrox cards, but the Matrox cards
tend to work better at 1024x768+ resolutions in my (albiet limited)
experience.  

You are right about the raster quality of the NVidia cards (Geforce 
especially).  As you probably know, NVidia liceneses out their chipset
(and a "reference board") to companies, and these companies do the
final board design and manufacture your card.  Apparently even the
reference board from NVidia had rather bad raster issues, and most
manufacturers weren't really set up to fix them, so they basically
reproduced the reference board as is, leaving the problems in place.
Also, GeForce cards are pretty expensive if all you want to do with
them is sysadmin or do other 2D tasks.  Warning: This paragraph
is third hand information, your accuracy may vary.

Finally, one really big downside for buying either card (if you are
a gamer) is that they are merely tested for "compatability" by most
game companies.  This means it is all too common to find games tickling
bugs in your card (that NEVER get fixed, because they only really care
about the NVidia and 3dfx folks).  I still have to downgrade my video
drivers to play some games (Star Trek Armada) and then upgrade them
again to play different games (Heavy Gear II), which is annoying to
say the least. 

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