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Date:      Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:36:59 -0800
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Huver <huver@amgraf.com>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, joe@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: 4.8 PreRelease problems
Message-ID:  <20030228193658.GF86620@rot13.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <200302281542.JAA02094@amgraf.com>
References:  <200302281542.JAA02094@amgraf.com>

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On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 09:42:48AM -0600, Huver wrote:
> I suppose this list is "the right place"?
>=20
> 4.8 pre-release problems:
>=20
> A. The new "__stdinp, __stdoutp, __stderrp" in <stdio.h> is causing major
>    problems for 3.x binaries.  E.g. such a binary uses compat/libc.so.3,
>    but also libm.so.2 -- the latter includes <stdio.h> but has no compat
>    version.  All /usr/lib/lib*.so that have no compat version, but include
>    the new <stdio.h>, cause this problem.

Read /usr/src/UPDATING.

> B. The change to "UPACKED" structs in <dev/usb.h> causes existing binaries
>    that do ioctl() -- the only way to obtain any USB dev info -- to fail.
>    Those structures have never been declared packed before, and now sudde=
nly
>    changed size and/or memer alignment.

I don't know about this one, I've CC'ed the USB maintainer.

> BTW, I made the mistake of cvsup'ing to RELENG_4 from a 4.6.2, thinking I
> was updating to 4.7, now I'll have to back down to 4.7+post-patches.  I'm
> entering a reqeust now: in the future, "pre-release" be made a new, short-
> lived branch (delete it after the release is cut), but OFF the stable bra=
nch.

No, that would be silly.  There's no real difference between
"pre-release" and "post-release" (the items you mentioned above were
merged into RELENG_4 some time ago).

Kris

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