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Date:      Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:51:43 +0100 (CET)
From:      Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl>
To:        Nik Clayton <nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk>
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.ORG, "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>
Subject:   Re: rc.conf and linux=yes
Message-ID:  <XFMail.990110165143.asmodai@wxs.nl>
In-Reply-To: <19990109022455.A12911@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>

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On 09-Jan-99 Nik Clayton wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 05:17:12PM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

>> Hmmm.  Urk.  You're right, of course, but now I'm even more loath to
>> give the essential idea up.  Perhaps a knob in the installation
>> instead which does both the rc.conf tweak and the pkg_add.  Yes,
>> that's the ticket.  OK, we can turn it back off by default again. :-)

> If an rc.conf tweak and a pkg_add is so trivial to do at sysinstall time,
> could we have another one that says "I'd rather have PostFix installed
> instead of Sendmail please" that does the right thing? Assuming, of 
> course, that PostFix was ported instead of pulled in to contrib/.
> 
> Granted, this won't fix the "PostFix should be rebuilt by 'make world'
> the same way that sendmail is" problem, but the linux libs aren't updated
> either, and they seem to be a fairly essential part of the sytem :-)

Well, I won't go into the debate of PostFix vs SendMail vs QMail vs
CannedSpam vs IDunno, but I think we need to define something once and for
all, because I see way too many contradictions in my opinion.

At one side we are modularising everything (CAM, A*D (the IDE layer), new
syscons, VM, ports) and at the other side we are pulling more proprietary
stuff in contrib. Given the fact that we have a workable package solution I
do not see the relevance of not putting those mailers or other relevant
software in ports and mayhaps make a special menu item for them in
sysinstall. Heck, I'd even help out once I figure out the how and why ;)

Given the fact that FreeBSD will be used more and more as a replacement of
Windows 95 for some users, they will not require a MTA to be present at
default install...

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asmodai(at)wxs.nl                         I wait and I wait...
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