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Date:      Sat, 12 Jul 2008 02:29:06 -0700
From:      David Southwell <david@vizion2000.net>
To:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Cc:        Remko Lodder <remko@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??
Message-ID:  <200807120229.06772.david@vizion2000.net>
In-Reply-To: <4877D0E3.4000303@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <200807100340.38399.david@vizion2000.net> <200807111449.55648.david@vizion2000.net> <4877D0E3.4000303@FreeBSD.org>

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On Friday 11 July 2008 14:30:11 Remko Lodder wrote:
> David Southwell wrote:
> > On Friday 11 July 2008 14:02:09 Remko Lodder wrote:
> >> David Southwell wrote:
> >>> On Friday 11 July 2008 11:53:50 you wrote:
> >>>> David Southwell wrote:
> >>>>> If we had to argue for every port on these terms everyone would spend
> >>>>> their time arguing and we would have none atall.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It is not as though Perl is an obscure bit of buggy code that none
> >>>>> uses.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If there is a request then simply a response to your last question is
> >>>>> needed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Enough
> >>>>>
> >>>>> david.
> >>>>
> >>>> So, when can I expect your updated work on the port, build all
> >>>> dependencies to make sure they keep on working etc? I understand that
> >>>> we want to have this as soon as possible, but also do keep in mind
> >>>> that we would like to make sure as much as possible that the code can
> >>>> actually work. I am not aware of the reason for this taking longer
> >>>> then some of you expect. But I am sure that there is a reason. It all
> >>>> remains volunteer work and people might choose to do different things
> >>>> then satisfy your specific need. Not that I am saying we shouldnt do
> >>>> it, but I am stating that there is more then just your wish.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> remko
> >>>
> >>> This started because I asked a simple question. Is there a possibility
> >>> of getting perl 5.10.0 and when. I did not expect the third degree
> >>> <chuckles>
> >>>
> >>> Admittedly I am curious why it is taking six months when most ports do
> >>> not take that long - but curiosity does not imply personal antagonism,
> >>> criticsm or sarcasm.
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> david
> >>
> >> It also doesn't imply that you can "demand" that people import 5.10.0
> >> because you want it, need it or whatever. It does mean that probably
> >> work is underway but that it stalled or something for a reason.
> >>
> >> "thanks"
> >> remko
> >
> > I have hear no demand from anyone  only reasonable curiosity following
> > six months delay. It is:
> > 1. reasonable to ask when
> > 2. Courteous to give a reply.
> >
> > David
> >
> > David
>
> And I told that you are entitled to do so, but your 'between the lines'
> stated more then just a question, which I ofcourse can understand.
>
> You have had your reply: I think work is underway, we do not know when
> it's available, but it will be as soon as possible.
>
> Thanks,
> remko
Here is a full and verbatim copy of my original posting that started this 
thread.
_________________________________________________________________
Subject: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??
 From: David Southwell <david@vizion2000.net>
 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
 
Hi

Just wondered when an upgrade to 5.10.0 could be expected.

David
___________________________________________

Are you seriously telling me you "understand" something "between the lines" in 
that?

Come on -- smile a little...and I hope you will find a more constructive & 
creative use for magination than that!!!

I do not think it is unreasonable to say the original posting was straight 
forward and certainly cast no aspersions. The same thing cannot be said of 
some responses. 

I wonder whether someone could endeavour to answer the original question 
constructively rather than defensively.

David
 

  



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