Date: 06 Jun 2000 15:04:25 +0200 From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@flood.ping.uio.no> To: "Robin S. Socha" <lart@socha.net> Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFCE Window Manager Message-ID: <xzpln0j7yg6.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no> In-Reply-To: "Robin S. Socha"'s message of "Tue, 6 Jun 2000 06:02:26 -0400" References: <00060117263800.82982@chip.wiegand.org> <3938AF9C.89EEDA7C@gorean.org> <xzpvgzn8948.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no> <20000606145721.A3237@physics.iisc.ernet.in> <20000606060226.A4959@kens.com>
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"Robin S. Socha" <lart@socha.net> writes: > [...] Does one > want to cater to the pathetic needs of these lusers and - coming back > to why KDE sucks so bad - sacrifice tried and trued concepts like "one > job one tool" in the name of user friendliness? What do you hope to achieve by insulting non-technical users? It's people like you that give the Unix community a bad name. > Change your viewpoint: what does KDE give you? What is the added value > of running KDE over twm? You get a bloated WM, a sucky Windos emulation, > loads of crappy toy^Hols, random crashes (yes, I have rarely seen KDE > crash, yes, I have seen loads of really, really bad apps using QT). So > where's the added value? Simplicity, consistency, useful tools (yes, I find such things as the international keyboard or the personal time tracker useful, and would probably enjoy the address book too if I started using it), ease of installation and configuration, and KDE has never ever crashed on any of my machines, nor have I noticed any significant slowdown except that the screensaver I favor (matrix) is rather CPU-hungry. I can't comment on the quality of teh Windows emulation since a) I don't use Windows, so I have no need for KDE to act like it and b) judging from my experience with Windows, KDE doesn't look remotely like it. > The solution? There isn't really one. Except "startx xemacs". Which IYAM > is a lot better as a DE than KDE. For me. YMMV. ;-) Emacs, even XEmacs, is not the answer. It's very nice for source code, and OK for mail and news, but useless for larger documents, and the behaviour of various modes wrt. text editing and formatting is very inconsistent (for instance, I'd expect outline mode to work precisely like text mode except for the hide/unhide functions, but it doesn't). DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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