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Date:      Mon, 10 Feb 1997 04:44:26 -0600
From:      Tony Overfield <tony@dell.com>
To:        joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch)
Cc:        bugs@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Stuck! 2.2 Gamma won't go.
Message-ID:  <3.0.1.32.19970210044426.006a265c@bugs.us.dell.com>
In-Reply-To: <Mutt.19970210093738.j@uriah.heep.sax.de>
References:  <3.0.1.32.19970209182035.006a34a8@bugs.us.dell.com> <3.0.1.32.19970209182035.006a34a8@bugs.us.dell.com>

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>NB: you can manually start that program as XF86Setup.  Since the
>low-level routines work (the LEDs are driven by the Xserver, not by
>the kernel driver), you could at least finally kill the Xserver with
>Ctrl-Alt-BkSpc if all else fails.

This does work.  Apparently, I managed to kill it off some other 
way before, because when I got out of the X server, the keyboard 
was still dead.  I had my text-mode console screen back, but no 
keys would work, and Alt-F1, etc. would just beep.

(time passes ...) 

Ok, now I know what I did.  While X was running, I got back to the 
text console and pressed Ctrl-C.  That seems to be a really bad 
thing to do.  I won't do that any more.

>Can you toggle the consoles with Ctrl-Alt-F1 (for example)?

Yes.  Thanks.  So that's what I "one million monkeyed" into my 
keyboard to get it to switch before.  I had been pushing Alt-F1 
with no luck.  Only *now* do I remember reading about that. ;-)

>You really can't move around with the TAB key?

Sometimes I can.  Hmm, I wonder ....

(more time passes ...) 

Bad case:

1. Start XF86Setup.
2. At the XFree86 "Oval" screen, move the PS/2 mouse.
   It will move erratically.
3. Stop moving the mouse.
4. Press TAB repeatedly.  It works fine.
5. TAB to "Mouse" button and press space bar (or enter).
6. Press space bar (or enter) again to "Dismiss" help text.
7. At this point TAB, Alt-H, '?', etc. will *not* work.
   Ctrl-Alt-F1, and Ctrl-Alt-Backspace *will* work.
   The mouse will behave erratically if you move it.

Good case (well, better):

1. Start XF86Setup.
2. At the XFree86 "Oval" screen, do *not* move the PS/2 mouse.
3. Press TAB repeatedly.  It works fine.
4. TAB to "Mouse" button and press space bar (or enter).
5. Press space bar (or enter) again to "Dismiss" help text.
6. At this point TAB, Alt-H, '?', 'p', etc. *will* work.
   The mouse will behave erratically if you move it.
   Once the mouse has been moved, the keyboard will die 
   after you, for example, call up help and dismiss it, 
   but apparently not otherwise.  

I think this contains some usable clues.

Well, I'm past that stumbling block.  I now know how to 
avoid this, and we'll probably all forget about it until 
someone else finds this one.

Thanks, Joerg.  With your suggestions I was able to 
repeat the experiments much more quickly.

-
Tony





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