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Date:      Sat, 07 May 2011 10:29:46 -0600
From:      Reed Loefgren <rloefgren@forethought.net>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Sending a Fax
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On 05/07/11 08:30, Bill Tillman wrote:
> I knew this thread would bring up some ironies. For the record it's all in their
> minds. E-Mails have been upheld in the US Court system as legal documents. And
> those people afraid or distrusting of e-mail have only to give me their fax
> number and watch how quickly I can send them bogus fax documents. Like I said,
> it's all in their minds. Faxing is no safer or more secure than any other form
> of comminication. Its simply a waste of ink, toner and paper as far as I'm
> concerned.
>
> I just finished an assignment at a dinosaur of a company which still prints of
> sets of huge D and E size drawings for their estimating department. When I
> showed them the things you can do with a software package like Bluebeam Revu,
> they scoffed at it because it costs $189 per seat. I showed them how they were
> wasting $200 to $500 each week printing out huge sets of drawings. In just on
> month they could have bought enough licensed copied of Revu to account for this
> and then stop printing so much paper which only ends up in the trash. Their
> secretaries were still sending out proposals via fax even when the client
> requested a PDF be sent by e-mail. Their reason for this was, "This is the only
> way we know how and we've done it like this for so long, we don't want to
> change."
>
> IMHO...Faxing is so last century.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: David Brodbeck<gull@gull.us>
> To: FreeBSD Questions<questions@freebsd.org>
> Sent: Fri, May 6, 2011 1:30:58 PM
> Subject: Re: Sending a Fax
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:47 AM, Bill Tillman<btillman99@yahoo.com>  wrote:
>> I read the other replies to your post so let me put in my 2 cents worth. For
>> the
>> last few years, I have basically abandoned faxing in favor of e-mailing PDF
> and
>> other document files. Paperless is not only more efficient but its green too.
> Believe it or not, there are industries where faxing is still the
> norm.  Many industrial suppliers want purchase orders by fax.  It also
> seems to be the common way that pharmacies communicate with doctors'
> offices.  These are conservative industries where email (and
> especially, email attachments) are still viewed with some suspicion.
> A lot of times these days the actual endpoint is a digital fax system,
> though; sometimes the fax never actually reaches paper.
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Bill,

I'd like to add to this that, in my opinion, the real issue these days 
is the emailing of unencrypted business papers. I take the position that 
*nothing* is ever deleted from an email server these days; or from those 
servers that are just relaying, no matter what the RFC says. I shake my 
head at what people send to their correspondents, that they would never 
think of discussing with a stranger. And yet they do just that via the 
spool.

Regards,

r



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