Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 08:04:01 +0100 From: Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de> To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading Perl... Somebody just shoot me and put me out of my misery! Message-ID: <5292F661.3070907@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <5292F3F0.9020706@gmx.de> References: <25503.1385152807@server1.tristatelogic.com> <201311231220.36687.Mark.Martinec%2Bfreebsd@ijs.si> <5292F0F5.6090203@gmx.de> <5292F3F0.9020706@gmx.de>
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Am 25.11.2013 07:53, schrieb olli hauer:
> On 2013-11-25 07:40, Matthias Andree wrote:
>> Am 23.11.2013 12:20, schrieb Mark Martinec:
>>> On Friday 22 November 2013 21:40:07 Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
>>>> Now, one last little thing...
>>>>
>>>> The note in the UPDATING file dated 20131120 gives essentially the same
>>>> instructions as the one dated 20131023, *however* it also contains this:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Change the option in lang/perl5.16:
>>>> make -C /usr/ports/lang/perl5.16 config
>>>>
>>>> HUH?? I don't understand this at all. What exactly is "the option" that
>>>> we are changing here? And what does it matter to anything?
>>>>
>>>> It would be Nice if this were entierly less opaque.
>>>
>>> $ man ports
>>> [...]
>>> config Configure OPTIONS for this port using dialog4ports(1).
>>>
>>>> And what does it matter to anything?
>>>
>>> Gives you a choice to re-think your existing/chosen port options.
>>> For example, a new default is now THREADS, but you may not like
>>> it, as it somewhat increases the memory usage and requires
>>> to rebuild all perl modules.
>>
>> Which shows an interesting facet of this whole tedious process:
>>
>> We're doing a lousy job of explaining the options to unsavvy users, and
>> we're also doing a lousy job of tracking options. Perhaps we should
>> just slash down the options and go more for "build the default" - it
>> also reduces testing complexity and would give for a more uniform ports
>> experience for everyone (packages use default options anyways).
>
> ${opt}_DESC is limited, but help/explanation can be given in pkg-help.
Granted, but last time I checked I did not have a "Help" button on
dialog4ports. Either none of the ports I've seen offering options offer
pkg-help, or dialog4ports needs to be told to feed pkg-help through $PAGER.
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