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Date:      Wed, 2 Sep 2009 18:45:20 -0500
From:      Astrodog <astrodog@gmail.com>
To:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Reducing noise in dmesg output
Message-ID:  <2fd864e0909021645p735e22b8id7d41f4b5a0ee89e@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <200909021656.15747.nick@van-laarhoven.org>
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On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Nick Hibma<nick@van-laarhoven.org> wrote:
>> What is irrelevant is subjective... =A0I mean does the average user real=
ly
>> need to see anything in dmesg? =A0Please don't change agp_i810.c. =A0A
>> verbose boot is incredibly noisy and rarely needed for debugging
>> anything except the most deep rooted of issues.
>
> Please state arguments instead of this 'I think it is useful'. That's not
> going to cut it. If you feel strongly about the info that is being produc=
ed,
> an option would be to produce a (tested!) patch that combines more
> information on one line as a compromise.
>
> FreeBSD has historically been producing very limited output on dmesg. Lin=
ux
> is very noisy (ever noticed the copyright notices right in the middle of
> your list of PCI devices?). Even they have decided that they should hide
> this behind coloured 'ok/failed' texts in some distributions.
>
> FreeBSD has slowly been producing more and more output (most notably the =
USB
> subsystem up to 7.x) and I am intending to remove that clutter again, or =
at
> least compress it.
>
> Being swamped with information reduces its value rather than increase it.
>
> Nick

I think this speaks more towards needing something between "Very
Quiet" and "Give me everything every developer has ever wanted to know
enough to include a print for it."

--- Harrison



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