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Date:      Mon, 17 Dec 2001 01:04:19 -0800
From:      Kent Stewart <kstewart@owt.com>
To:        Anthony Schneider <aschneid@mail.slc.edu>
Cc:        "Brandon D. Valentine" <bandix@looksharp.net>, Andreas Klemm <andreas@apsfilter.org>, apsfilter-hackers@apsfilter.org, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: aps2file doesn't work on FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <3C1DB513.1020807@owt.com>
References:  <20011216195054.A36208@mail.slc.edu> <20011217030451.V94172-100000@turtle.looksharp.net> <20011217035644.A40375@mail.slc.edu>

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Anthony Schneider wrote:

> Linux:
> 
> anthony:/home/anthony:9% uname -a
> Linux lappy.slc.edu 2.2.17-21mdk #1 Thu Oct 5 13:16:08 CEST 2000 i686 unknown
> anthony:/home/anthony:10% su
> Password: 
> [root@lappy anthony]# echo $USER
> root
> [root@lappy anthony]# exit
> anthony:/home/anthony:11% su -l
> Password: 
> [root@lappy /root]# echo $USER
> root
> [root@lappy /root]# 


It may work on Linux that way but you are supposed to do a "su -" on 
FreeBSD. For example,

opal:kent> su
Password:
opal# env
USER=kent

opal:kent> su -
Password:
USER=root

The system knows the difference.

Kent


> 
> 
> FreeBSD:
> 
> anthony:/home/anthony:20% uname -a
> FreeBSD flack.slc.edu 4.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE #0: Mon Nov 20 13:02:55 GMT 2000     jkh@bento.FreeBSD.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC  i386
> anthony:/home/anthony:21% su
> Password:
> flack# echo $USER
> anthony
> flack# exit
> anthony:/home/anthony:22% su -l
> Password:
> flack# echo $USER
> root
> flack# logout
> anthony:/home/anthony:23% 
> 
> From 'info su' on my linux box:
> 
>    By default, `su' does not change the current directory.  It sets the
> environment variables `HOME' and `SHELL' from the password entry for
> USER, and if USER is not the super-user, sets `USER' and `LOGNAME' to
> USER.  By default, the shell is not a login shell.
> 
> su version (on my linux box):
> 
> [root@lappy anthony]# su --version
> su (GNU sh-utils) 2.0
> Written by David MacKenzie.
> 
> Copyright (C) 1999 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
> [root@lappy anthony]# 
> 
> Perhaps it's time to contact gnu?
> 
> -Anthony.
> 
> [ and apologies for the line wrapping ]
> 
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 03:09:19AM -0500, Brandon D. Valentine wrote:
> 
>>On Sun, 16 Dec 2001, Anthony Schneider wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Well, the reason I brought up $USER inheritance is that on linux, $USER
>>>is root after an su to root, whereas on FreeBSD, the $USER is the same
>>>as before the su.
>>>
>>[Line wrap at 72, please]
>>
>>Excerpt from su(1):
>>---
>>By default, the environment is unmodified with the exception of USER,
>>HOME, and SHELL.  HOME and SHELL are set to the target login's default
>>values.  USER is set to the target login, unless the target login has a
>>user ID of 0, in which case it is unmodified.  The invoked shell is the
>>target login's.  This is the traditional behavior of su.
>><snip>
>>-l      Simulate a full login.
>>---
>>
>>You are observing none other than the expected behavior.  I have never
>>seen Linux (GNU) su do things any differently in this regard.  If they
>>do, it's broken.
>>
>>Brandon D. Valentine
>>-- 
>>"Iam mens praetrepidans avet vagari."
>>- G. Valerius Catullus, Carmina, XLVI
>>
>>
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> 


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