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Date:      Wed, 5 Jun 2002 17:01:06 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
To:        "David E. O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog@FreeBSD.org>, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>, John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/etc/defaults rc.conf
Message-ID:  <200206060001.g56016Ij007843@apollo.backplane.com>
References:  <20020605084755.K91379@wantadilla.lemis.com> <50718.1023287177@critter.freebsd.dk> <20020606091023.B92654@wantadilla.lemis.com>

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    I don't think ntpd -gqx is an adequate replacement for ntpdate.  
    Depending on how you are receiving time updates it could take several
    minutes before ntpd -gqx returns.  Given that, I would appreciate 
    it if this commit could be backed out.

    I ran a test on my workstation.  It took three minutes for ntpd -gqx
    to set the time.  I understand that the manual page for ntpd says that
    ntpdate is to be retired but there is no adequate replacement for it
    yet (certainly not ntpd -gqx !).

					-Matt
					Matthew Dillon 
					<dillon@backplane.com>

:On Wednesday,  5 June 2002 at 16:26:17 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
:> In message <20020605084755.K91379@wantadilla.lemis.com>, "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" writes:
:>
:>>>> ntpdate(8) may be deprecated in the mind of the ntpd(8) author but
:>>>> the replacement functionality isn't the same yet.
:>>>
:>>> If ntpdate is going away soon, we need to experiement with the
:>>> replacement now.
:>>
:>> What's the replacement?
:>
:> Ideally, somebody would sit down and write a sntpd(8), which would be a
:> light-weight, client-side-only NTP daemon without refclock support,
:> without weird remote-configration stuff and other excess luggage.
:>
:> If somebody wants to volounteer, I will happily provide detailed
:> guidance on the timekeeping magic needed.
:
:A good suggestion, but it misses the point.  We shouldn't be throwing
:out things like ntpdate *until* we have a replacement.
:
:What's the reason for deprecating ntpdate, anyway?
:
:Greg
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