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Date:      Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:11:39 +0200
From:      =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= <des@des.no>
To:        dwilde1@gmail.com
Cc:        freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>
Subject:   Re: leveraging FOSS, especially FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <861vlr3pno.fsf@ds4.des.no>
In-Reply-To: <eefa2c8b0909281016vca9f9fu5f44cedd098b6304@mail.gmail.com> (Don Wilde's message of "Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:16:05 -0500")
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Don Wilde <dwilde1@gmail.com> writes:
> What is incorrect, Julian?

Pretty much everything about the lawsuit.

http://oreilly.com/catalog/opensources/book/kirkmck.html
http://www.groklaw.net/pdf/USLsettlement.pdf

I found the phrase "everything developed before 1970" particularly
amusing, as it translates to approximately zero, plus or minus zero.

Oh, and pretty much everything else as well.

The practice of sharing source code without compensation (and the term
"copyleft") can be traced to a hobbyist magazine that later developed
into Dr Dobb's, and predates 3BSD (1BSD and 2BSD were only add-ons, not
OS distributions) by about five years.  The first explicit discussion of
free software as such was in an article published in the July 1976 issue
of SIGPLAN in reaction to Bill Gate's (in)famous "open letter".  The
first organized F/OSS movement was, like it or not, the GNU Project
started by Richard Stallman in 1983.  At that time, BSD was distributed
only to institutions that already held an AT&T source code license.  The
network stack was "open sourced" in the late eighties, the rest of the
system in the early-to-mid nineties.

> He was drinking beer by the pitcher, so I'm sure he was more
> forthcoming than usual.

I neither know nor care whether that statement is true, but it's not a
particularly nice thing to say about anyone.

DES
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Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no



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